Scope's reply to the governments planned concessions to the green paper.
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Thankyou I get so stressed on phone I will be a hot mess but what's new!! Can you so pip application online some areas can God all this since October 2023 been constant flight or fight mode do you know about the admenments list can't find any information of how many still on list have a relaxing day going to be hot hot
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So it is a money bill no scrutiny 6 hours to vote on I'm so angry that meg hillier actually did what she did do you think she had a private vendetta doesn't make sense she was being interviewed like starmer had parted the red sea and the angels was singing in the back ground all besties again who loses US mentally emotionally physically feel like thier private punchbag rotten treatment I couldn't do that to anyone I suppose we are caring thier void of all emotions
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I am trapped in a job I don't like that much because of consession my employer makes and although I am truly grateful I would like to get another job but the reason I stay is because getting a job at interview when you explain your disabilities means no one will touch you and I can see why so getting people into work is a joke sorry it won't happen, if it was simply a case of mobility a wheelchair and a ramp great but of someone is in alot of pain then just provide a wheelchair isn't enough mobility has to be considered and should be part of daily living also, I agree any vote of this getting through is wrong, pile the pressure on folks it's the only way we can win
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Hi @happyman I'd like to think that "new" means exactly that, but hesitant to say with 100% certainty until we've seen these concessions put on to paper.
I appreciate that's not the answer anyone wants right now but everything is moving so quickly at the minute with lots of conversations and decisions happening overnight almost, as we've seen this week, and the majority being shared via the media before the Government.
I'm really hopeful that we'll have some more clarity over the next week, especially early on with the vote taking place Tuesday. We'll try our absolute best to keep you informed as we're being updated but as @Albus_Scope mentioned, with the fast pace of changes we're all hearing at the same time, including us here at Scope.
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Hi Meredith, I am so sorry about your dad, I really am, no one deserves to be in that position re finances etc. Was your Dad too old to apply for PIP ? That is a bug bear of mine that there is a cut off in claiming it. I may have come across as a bit sharp I am sorry if I did, its just I don't want another argument about divisions in who deserves what to surface again, we should be standing together to make things better for all disabled no matter how old or their financial situation. I bowed out of a comment last week about means testing PIP, these comments divide folk, where we should be rallying especially now. I am not saying your comment was the same, I just want to get through a day as a pensioner without having to justify being old ( 67 - is that even old ? ) and on PIP 😊
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Forgot to add @happyman, I've popped a link to the previous Green Paper Discussion in the body of this discussion to refer back to.
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I've put the total rent per week, but it asks me also for the eligible service charges separately, which I haven't got with me, and without this I wasn't able to continue to the next page of the application form. So, I've just put an arbitrary figure temporarily until I've spoken to my housing association hopefully on Monday.
Does the ID verification come after submitting the form, as I haven't been asked to verify anything so far?
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Hi @Holly_Scope - please would you also add a link to the 'Green Paper & Benefits Reform Updates' thread before it slides into obscurity. I have bookmarked it, but I think providing a link here will also help other members.
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Of course @chiarieds, good shout. It should be on there now. ☺️
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I think he got tired of taking a swipe at sick and disabled people on benefits on Daily Mail and not getting any reaction or response, so he has decided to bring his stupid passion over here.
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Hi everyone,
Just to say I received my pip review form this morning. It’s the AR1 form and not the 89 pages people one people are talking about. If anyone has any idea why some are given long forms I’d love to know
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The AR1 form is shorter than the PIP2 form (the initial claim form) @secretsquirrel1 - but it should be filled in with as much detail as your PIP2. There's not much space, so do add extra pages (with your name & NI number at the top of each) just saying which question you're continuing from.
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For your information, Scope is not the mother of all answers, neither do they receive devine revelations. They can only provide answers following the information that's available to them. No one, including Scope, can provide satisfactory answers to all the questions that are revolving around the current saga due to the simple fact that neither the government nor its DWP are providing detailed information or clarifications on the issue at hand.
To address your enquiries for which I might send you an invoice, from the information that's available so far, claimants on review would not be affected by the changes in terms of the proposed 4pt based scoring system, and if they don't get 4pts, they wouldn't lose their PIP.
But what's not known yet is whether they'll be subjected to be reviewed with the new upcoming PIP assessment, or always with the current one (which I heavily doubt), as Stephen Timms reiterated numerous times that they would launch a wider review of the PIP indicators, which means changing or modifying the current PIP descriptors.
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Some Muppet upthread suggested vouchers.
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Looks like after the 3rd reading it will go to the house of lords, that's if it passes tuesdays 2nd reading vote.
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After the final vote, the bill goes to the Lords, to be carefully scrutinised again.
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I get vouchers for Christmas to spend in garden centres from my family
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Has it been accepted as a money bill now ?
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Only if the bill is NOT selected as a ‘money bill’, which the government have applied for it to be. The Speaker then decides if the bill meets the criteria, if it does there’s no debate in the Lords.
That’s my understanding anyway
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Hi chiaried,
Hope you’re well. I mentioned it because I keep hearing people saying they’re getting forms 89 pages long for their review. Is there two different review forms ? My previous form was the say no change form though it was filled in like a normal form. I’ll definitely fill this in explaining everything plus I’m going to do a diary for a couple of weeks. Also medical notes and dr letters and pray this time I get a paper based assessment. 🤞
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