Scope's reply to the governments planned concessions to the green paper.

Hi Amaya

I won at upper tribunal after having to go to the upper tier for permission as the tribunal had erred in law . I won and my pip was reviewed as normal after 3 years plus 2 years back pay . I guess it must be random and again something that’s unfair within the system. I find too much of claiming pip down to luck .

Even Liz Kendall has said vouchers will never happen as it would take autonomy away from claimants.

Exactly what is the concession for people on LCWRA?

I keep hearing that we're protected which is very vague, protected in what way? It was already decided before the concessions that people already on LCWRA won't have the health element halved (unless after April next year you get thrown off it and then reclaim which will then make you a new claimant), so it's something else, but what exactly?

I've heard that cbesa is getting merged with job seekers to create employment insurance....

But I'm not sure that would apply to people in the support group of ESA and the UC lcwra group (especially existing claimants ) .... I don't see how they could do that to be honest , also they have said repeatedly that existing claimants who claim the health element will be protected

The 4 point criteria is what worries me because technically we will be new pip claims , but surely as we are existing claimants of ESA support group and UC we will be assessed under the current criteria

I think all we can do is wait and see what and what doesn't get voted through next week , then we will know what's what ....

Yes I'm the same as you cbesa every two weeks 281 pounds

Then end of the month just over 800 but they deduct 609 pounds from my ESA , leaves me with 214 ..... So about 775 a month

I agree it's shocking this has gone under the radar as it will effect alot of people , they haven't been clear about this at all

I agree with posts from @mrsBB and @MW123 I don't trust this government either. Current PIP claimants will keep their PIP? PIP claimants are losing their PIP now, I know of a young man with mental health issues who was on PIP Enhanced both elements, now is on zero and a parent has lost the Carers allowance too. Members post on this forum getting zero points from assessments who are on Enhanced PIP rates.... I don't read about any of the changes, whatever is voted through will mean nothing if they want people of UC and PIP. Assessors or Decision Managers will just reduce the points which they are doing right now and always done!! It is a money saving exercise as in 2020 there were only 2m claiming PIP from it's start in 2013 (I think). Now just under 5 years later there are now 3.7m claiming PIP, 1.7m more in less than 5 years and over and after lockdowns. Face to face appointments stopped what I went through.... Something is amiss whatever way you look at it. Reeves wants this voted through and then it will start, if she goes for more tax off working people experts reckon there will be trouble in this country. Currently you don't have have to earn that much now to be paying 40% tax, that does upset working people already! The country is getting to be a joke, if it was not so serious! That's my thoughts on the issue.

Hi chiaried,

It says AR1 but not the numbers at the bottom. It’s 32 pages including the information on how to fill it in . I t does say not to send a GP letter of support but I’m no longer under hospital specialist due to there being no treatment for ME and fibromyalgia. Plus the other conditions I have . Should I just get one anyway ? The Dr I see isn’t my named Dr at the surgery so I don’t want them asking someone who hasn’t seen me .

I agree with geckobat it is very confusing if LCRWA is retained or not under PIP UC reforms.

Please go to

www.cab.org.uk

and Google ''Disability Rights UK''

and report back to us all.

You'd alleviate your own anxiety and confusion, and help others, if you did the above.

We do need expert advice from the professionals.

I'm on just LCWRA and my mind's been spinning since the start of this bill trying to understand what will happen. This side of it continues to be brushed over or mentioned only briefly. It's frustrating.

I'm not referring to sites like this and B&W. I'm talking about communities on social networks, tiktok, etc. where there is absolutely no doubt people are being encouraged to game and cheat the system by people running accounts seeking followers and ad revenue.