Disability Benefit Cuts - Take action before July 9th.

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  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Community Member Posts: 297 Empowering

    I just cannot shake the feeling that that ''4 point based instrument'' will come back to bite us in some other format. New name, approach, same intention and outcome.

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  • jasminehoop
    jasminehoop Community Member Posts: 51 Contributor

    That's it though isn't it - he doesn't seriously "believe" that for one moment. But he also doesn't care that it's a devastating lie.

  • Amaya_Ringo
    Amaya_Ringo Community Member Posts: 408 Championing

    Thank you Chiareds for posting the link to the Mayfield report.

    What stuck out to me like a sore thumb was how little the report tended to touch on employee experiences. It was sympathetic to people's situations more than just assuming people didn't want to be in work, but the idea that most employers want to keep employees and support them in the workplace is highly subjective and doesn't really jive with the 50% of employers who apparently don't want them.

    I remember reading a report a few years back about Disability Confident, where around 80% of organisations had not actually increased their disability employment. I wish I could find the report now (I think it was 2018, so before the pandemic, showing that this was an endemic problem even then) but it was eye-opening about how many Disability Confident employers were not actually making changes to their practices.

    Mine is one that does take all that seriously - for example, they've just published a new disability strategy after consultation with disabled and neurodivergent staff groups - but although that acknowledges so many of the barriers disabled people face, and problems faced during recruitment, it still looks at employment from the perspective of interviewing and scoring candidates on points. No matter how much awareness training you have, you are never going to employ someone who can't present themselves coherently in an interview over someone who can. The playing field is never going to be level - if you make too many allowances for a disabled candidate, you discriminate against non disabled candidates, but if you are using a method that is known to discriminate against disabled candidates, then no matter how much you try and mitigate, it's still never going to be completely fair.

    So how the government intend to mitigate that I don't know - if it's still a problem even in well-meaning and supportive workplaces.

    As I've mentioned before, at department level I've had nothing but support from my management team. It was GETTING the job in the first place that was the barrier . And I think this is something the Mayfield report is missing - at least in any depth - because the barriers people face are so diverse.


    (Meanwhile, I hope I misread a report in a paper headline yesterday in which it looked like the Chancellor referred to benefit cuts as 'low hanging fruit' - ie an easy financial target. Perhaps I just took it out of context).

  • AppleJacks
    AppleJacks Posts: 89 Empowering

    From what I've read Catherine, a money bill can be amended but not challenged. I could be wrong though because it looks a murky way of getting legislation through.

  • Mijuka
    Mijuka Community Member Posts: 145 Empowering

    well done.. as we are in no power to do anything about it.. worrying just causes health issues.. i can tell from my personal experience

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    You know people who are in a worse condition than me ? And how do you know what condition I’m in . You don’t know me or my full medical history and certainly not how it affects me . Is it because you don’t consider ME serious enough? Right now I have to suffer daily pain as pain killers are incompatible with other conditions and I’m barely out of bed let alone awake. Life’s impossible without energy.

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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I think it was just the bluntness in one paragraph that made it stand out that way . I’ve really had to fight the dwp , once for over 2, years up to higher tier . Not just for myself but for everyone who deserves their award but doesn’t have the strength to fight .

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  • Danny123
    Danny123 Community Member Posts: 229 Empowering

    Yeah ....

    Honestly I'm just tired of second guessing them , I'm not going to let them take my life ....

    I don't think I'm short term as I've been on benefit for 15 years

    I don't think I qualified through the serve criteria

    Technically I've never been assessed for lcwra , as I always got assessed through incapacity benefit and then through ESA support group , so when I voullentatrlly moved over to UC I automatically got put into the lcwra group because of my support group status.... Although everyone that is migrateing over will be in that position , we still qualify as existing claimants....

    My last time being reassessed was November 2019 , so nearly 6 years since a reasessment and nearly 4 overdue .... So I'm in line for one of think , although I've seen people with another two years on me so god knows

    There's a massive back log aswell

    So if there not going to start them again until April 2026 and it's only short term and serve criteria they will start with then who knows 🤦🤷

    I would think in that case it could be anything from 2027 onwards ....

    And when they scrap the WCA in April 2028 they will pilot it first and then start it for new claims

    So you could be looking at short term and serve starting April 2026 and it could take them two years to get through them , just on time for the WCA to be scrapped and them starting to asses new claims .... Which means we would be put to one side again 🤷

    The DWP is in chaos and they are so far behind , who knows how or what they will do .... But I'm 4 years overdue on November 2026 , it's definitely not out of the realm of possibility that people in our position may not get reassessed until 2029 .... But it will send you mad trying to guess ....

    I do worry about what they mean by short term though , I know they mean pregnant , the dreaded C word that I can't bare to say , and I think illnesses that may get better makes up the short term group .... But I was thinking... I probably got a two year award last time I got reassessed , so I was supposed to have another November 2021 but because of COVID the rest is history.... But I was wondering if a two year award is " short term " and maybe I'm in the running for one come April 2026 🤔

  • AppleJacks
    AppleJacks Posts: 89 Empowering
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    You seem to be scaremongering at a time when vulnerable people are seeking assurance, if that is your choice then I think you should think more before you post anymore. It's enough that they keep closing the threads, without you adding more misery.

  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Community Member Posts: 1,158 Championing
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    I was awarded LCWRA in 2019, I'm sure it is substantial risk. Does anyone know how likely it is that I'll be reassessed soon after April 2026?

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  • AppleJacks
    AppleJacks Posts: 89 Empowering

    Unlike you, I don't claim any benefits and probably you don't, so what you've put there just makes you the bigger fool😂And unlike you, I'm here to support the people who may or may not lose their benefits, something you seem to relish in. Try to find a joke forum you can join, I'm sure you'd enjoy that better😂

  • Girl_No1
    Girl_No1 Community Member Posts: 413 Trailblazing

    @chiarieds I agree. Unless they get their act together, they will require three separate bills.

    I think part of their gaslighting of both the general public and us (the claimants) was this idea that one assessment would benefit everyone - claimants, DWP staff, taxpayer.

    They were so sold on the idea that everyone would be 'grateful' for this 'improvement' we'd simply fall in line and fail to scrutinise.

    Their arrogance is backfiring spectacularly in their face.

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