The Universal Credit Bill becomes law. Here are the changes to disability benefits you need to know
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Thanks for confirming that.
It does seem very odd as it must only be a very small number of IR ESA claimants left by then… This bill was designed to save the country money. An extra few quid in April for a small number of claimants isn't going to save a noticeable amount of money nationally.
This has either been done just to make it look like they're doing more than they actually are, or as you suggest, perhaps there is a more 'persuasive' agenda beneath it.
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I’m scared to death, I have fibromyalgia, cptsd, eupd, depression and anxiety, I have 2 children and just found out at 15 weeks that I’m pregnant. (I have had menses so I missed it until a routine appointment had me do a test) I have absolutely no idea what to do, I’m in the lcwra and I also receive pip higher care low mobility. Currently going through review, I was taking 13 pills a day it has now been lowered to 7 ones safe for pregnancy. I’m spiralling through withdrawals, panic and symptoms of my illnesses. I’m honestly ready for running away because how am I meant to support these children. Please don’t come at me about contraception, I’m not stupid, I know how it works unfortunately mine failed. It happens. Please help me make sense of it all.
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I'm so sorry to hear you're struggling @jamrumples Recent news plus medication withdrawal cant be fun. Just know if you need to talk things through, we're all here for support.
I've popped you an email, please be on the look out for it. 😊
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My son is still on DLA too. I've not heard anything about it so I assume the change over will still happen at some point. My son should get more on PIP, so I have a feeling that is why he has not been swapped yet.
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So much going on at once and with all this welfare stuff and reduction of meds I can imagine how overwhelming it is have you got support around you I also have bpd and last few days feel the rage side and emotions changing every second i have to keep reminding myself this isn't happening immediately 2028 lwcra being scrapped new claimants first so as few post says probley looking 2029 and no one knows for pip yet but it's like the mind can't come down from it all take one step at a time we have till 2028 2029 I have to say who knows what will happen before then will uc be legally challenged on human rights violations things could be so different I hope you have family or good friends and you can always talk on here hold in there we are stronger than we think but you been triggered rightly so have to tell myself this will pass the fear is overwhelming and flooding the body and mind you will regain more clarity takes time to come down from it all your doing a great job we have a few years till it all comes into play I'm sending you much love ❤️ and big hugs
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I think they lost the impetus to migrate people over to PIP at such speed when the Tories lost the battle to rule out 'psychological distress'. I am absolutely certain my PIP migration was timed to align with that as they assumed autism would be wiped out by their new rules. It wasn't, but I would have rather have stayed on my DLA for life and never migrated. I found it a lot less stressful.
Going back to a point raised above, I think all the attention has been on PIP for two reasons. One, because there was so much misrepresentation around what PIP is, both in the media and government, and it made claimants angry, and two, because the majority of the Labour party believe that getting people into work is the Right Thing To Do - and cutting PIP potentially would have lost people their jobs, rather than improved employment.A note here, I am not saying this is a correct belief or that the changes are justified, just that I think this is why there has been so much about PIP. Unfortunately BECAUSE of the PIP misinformation and the length of that battle, the implications of the other part of the bill got overshadowed.
And with the CB stuff, that's I think technically in the consultation so I can only assume a further bill around that will happen later?
I also think that the reason it is a money bill is because so much of the original bill got gutted out. What is left is something that they can get through as a money bill because it strictly talks about how much money people will get. Whether this is fair or not is another question, but I think it would have been a lot harder to pass it as a money bill with the PIP stuff left in. I might be way off, but given there were still discussions about the PIP review going on, the only reason they removed PIP from the title of the bill was so that they could make it all about the financial arrangements of UC.
It's one step in the battle, that's all. PIP claimants still have the review to deal with, UC claimants still have the impact of the bill to wrestle with, CB ESA people still have to wait and see what happens with their claims. We're not at the end of this conversation by a long chalk.
Meantime, I am hoping that the review becomes an open consultation for everyone to contribute to. I do not like this "focus group" trend in some discussions where six disabled people are asked to speak for all of us.3 -
I will be 63 when my pip award expires and its currently under review even though it doesn't expire until September 2026
I sent my completed form in April and I had the usual text saying they received it and I haven't heard anything more from them since April.
As far as I am concerned, the longer they take to reassess my claim the better because I will be getting nearer to state retirement age and then I will get my pension and if they stop my pip then I can claim attendance allowance.
It will be less than pip but better than nothing but I will lose my blue badge.
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Your Blue badge is totally independent to PIP - I had a blue badge for 10 years prior to receiving PIP Mobility - it was based on an assessment that the local council gave me !
Getting Attendance Allowance might also help to support your application for a Blue Badge.
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My council only gives blue badges to those on pip mobility but as you say attendance allowance may be acceptable.
I am trying to remain positive but its difficult.
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The daily living and mobility components of PIP are completely separate. So even if someone loses their daily living award, they can still keep their mobility award. The government has confirmed that mobility isn’t part of the current review, and no changes are planned to that component.
Like Wibbles, I had a Blue Badge long before I was even on PIP. My local council actually told me about PIP and suggested I might be eligible. I wouldn’t have known about it otherwise. That shows how access has always been tied to actual mobility needs, not just benefit status.
If your council says they only give Blue Badges to PIP claimants, that’s not in line with Department for Transport guidance and could potentially go against the Equality Act.
Blue Badge eligibility is meant to reflect mobility difficulties, not benefit entitlement alone.0 -
If you get Personal Independence Payments (PIP)
You’re automatically eligible for a Blue Badge if you either:
- scored 8 points or more in the ‘moving around’ area of your PIP assessment
- scored 10 points in the ‘planning and following journeys’ area of your PIP assessment and were put in category ‘E’ - this means your stress, anxiety or other mental health issue stops you leaving the house
Check your PIP decision letter if you’re not sure.
If you're not automatically eligible
You can still get a badge if:
- you have long-term problems walking or going to places - including problems caused by stress, anxiety or other mental health issues
- you have severe problems using both your arms
If you’re applying on behalf of a child, you can still get a badge if the child is:
- aged over 2 and has long-term problems walking or going to places - including problems caused by stress, anxiety or other mental health issues
- aged under 3 and needs to be close to a vehicle because of a health condition
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Yes I am aware of all of that but I fear I may lose pip altogether under these new rules, in which case when I retire I will apply for attendance allowance.
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Is this the main or only thread discussing this now? Everything seems to have gone very quiet all of a sudden… wondering if I missed something.
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Reating a couple of comments here, I'm wondering whether it is possible to claim PIP mobility and AA, which doesn't cover mobility, after State Pension age.
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It is @geckobat.
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A claimant already in receipt of PIP, they continue to receive it after retirement age, they can't apply for PIP after retirement age, but can apply for Attendance Allowance.
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It's only an opinion but, if the threads keep getting closed, then people are going to shy away from posting and that's not something you want. I've been on forums where the threads go on for hundreds of pages, but now, if these threads about the green paper go above twenty, you shut them down. it doesn't seem right to me.
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You can't get both PIP and AA at the same time.
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Can you not just start a new thread relating to the UC and PIP changes?
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