The Universal Credit Bill becomes law. Here are the changes to disability benefits you need to know

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  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,388 Championing

    No, you can’t receive both the mobility component of PIP and AA after reaching State Pension age.

    If your PIP award is made before pension age and includes the mobility component, you’re allowed to keep receiving it. However, once you’ve passed pension age, you can’t make a new claim for mobility support or upgrade from standard to enhanced rate, even if your condition worsens.

    AA is for people over pension age who aren’t receiving PIP. It provides support for personal care but does not cover mobility. You cannot receive PIP and AA at the same time, so if you want to switch from PIP to AA you would need to end your current PIP claim.

    PIP generally offers more comprehensive support, especially at the enhanced rate with mobility included, most people who are eligible choose to stay on it rather than move to AA.

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Online Community Member Posts: 299 Championing

    Hello.

    I took a week off from reading anything to do with this or any news.

    The key to all of this is evidence, make sure you have evidence, concrete, watertight evidence of your disabilities/incapacities and they cannot do a damn thing about it.

    They cannot dispute facts, if they try to then seek legal action. I'm tired of disabled/incapacitated people being treated like criminals, always under suspicion for lying, it's a terrible inditement on this country.

  • Holly_Scope
    Holly_Scope Posts: 3,107 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Hi @AppleJacks thank you for the feedback, it is appreciated and we do take it on board. We've tried to keep the threads going for as long as possible running up to the voting, but when they get too large it effects people's ability to post so we have been forced to create a new one. And then more recently with the voting and fast paced changes, we had a lot of questions and requests for updates so we've tried to share the most up to date detail by creating a new discussion (but linking back to the previous one) to try to make it easier to see and access this information. Hopefully we can keep this one in place like we were doing with the earlier discussions 🙂

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,985 Championing

    I agree with you, @JasonRA, it's a sad state of affairs.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 2,575 Championing

    I know. I just wondered whether some claimants might meet the criteria for ongoing PIP mobility but, having zero for DL, could apply for AA at the appropriate age. Hey ho.

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,388 Championing

    As Parliament enters its summer recess, followed by party conference season, attention on welfare reforms is likely to fade, at least until autumn brings renewed political momentum.

    Encouragingly, my MP phoned me the day after the vote and shared plans to hold workshops with constituents to gather views on potential PIP reforms. Holly, will Scope be engaging members later in the year to gather input on the changes they’d like to see to the PIP system? And will there be a renewed push to contact MPs, so decision-makers don’t assume the rebellion over the UC bill was the end of the disabled community’s concern?

    Everyone deserves a well earned break from politics, but come autumn, we must keep this issue alive. It’s far from settled.

  • Holly_Scope
    Holly_Scope Posts: 3,107 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Hi @MW123 that's a really good question, and something the online community team had actually spoken about today. I've passed this on to the team within Scope I believe will be managing this. Thanks for raising and hopefully we'll understand more about the plans in the near future.

  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 990 Championing
    edited July 15

    I agree with it keeping it to one thread, and the thread itself needs to be not too out of date, otherwise the community just becomes politics dominated, and scope is about much more then that. The mods have done a good job of cleaning up, if it was left alone we would have dozens of political threads all dominating the recent discussions, with often duplicated discussions and questions.

    In terms of the ongoing political upheaval, I was part of a discussion with a outer family member at the weekend and was very disappointed to hear of his view, it seems he had previously hid it out of respect for me, but the view is basically not only to cut support for mentally disabled people (he has no issue with physically disabled and because of that says he has no issue with me), but the bit that really shocked me, was that he doesnt even support having social support circles in place, no social workers, mental health care etc. just the view, force into poverty to force a recovery. A reason wasnt even given to give rationale to the point of view, just the view given.

    Whether its relevant or not he does come from a wealthy family who do support each other, e.g. he in effect has been gifted his home, never had to really worry about much because his parents will make sure he is ok, and this perhaps has led to assumptions that this kind of support is available to everyone, I dont know as the conversation didnt really carry on, no reason was given, and we moved on to something else.

    I have also come across multiple people who refuse to believe the NHS and social care is hard to access, they think if the treatment hasnt been offered then it must mean the patient has not been seeing the doctor or not being truthful with their doctor. They even fail to accept it can be close to impossible to just get a GP appointment, because their own surgery is ok.

    There is so much misunderstanding and misinterpretation in the country right now.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,985 Championing

    2 weeks for a phone appointment, it's dire!

  • onlymeagain
    onlymeagain Online Community Member Posts: 207 Empowering

    Can't even have that here. Appointments need to be made online between 9.30 and 1pm but the online form will become unavailable earlier if they fill up their quota for instructions that day. Receptionists can't make any appointments anymore unless for nurse.
    You also have to use the same online form to request repeat meds or a fit note.

    I was supposed to be supplying fit notes but I couldn't get access to the form because they had always maxed out for that day so my fit note expired and I couldn't provide a new one.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,985 Championing

    So what happened if you couldn't get a fit note? Surely they couldn't penalise you for being unable to get an appointment?

  • OverlyAnxious
    OverlyAnxious Online Community Member Posts: 4,808 Championing

    Yes they can. Any gaps in fit notes move the new award start date forward. That means potentially a longer wait to start receiving the new award, or potentially less backpay, depending on how quickly the WCA decision is made.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,985 Championing
    edited July 16

    But if you can't get a fit note, what then? Getting an appointment in say, London, it must happen often enough.

  • OverlyAnxious
    OverlyAnxious Online Community Member Posts: 4,808 Championing
  • onlymeagain
    onlymeagain Online Community Member Posts: 207 Empowering

    I couldn't go forward with the wca. So they said i now had to look for a job but I reminded them that I am a carer.

    I may try again though since they are cutting the lcwra rate in half next year.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,985 Championing

    I'm glad I don't require fit notes. Access to GP has got significantly worse in recent years, they will have to recognise the reality on the ground in the future i suppose.

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 6,152 Championing

    Presumably these pilot areas have been given extra resources to help ensure there aren't delays in seeking Fit Notes.

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 234 Pioneering

    3 more Labour MPs lose their whip after rebellion due to welfare reforms.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y7zqdwzqyo

    I don’t think Margaret Thatcher ever acted like Keir Starmer.

    Is Keir Starmer fascist?

  • AppleJacks
    AppleJacks Online Community Member Posts: 69 Empowering

    I think you may be refering to where, they are piloting an idea where the doctor gives you support to work instead of a fit note?.