The Universal Credit Bill becomes law. Here are the changes to disability benefits you need to know

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  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Community Member Posts: 297 Empowering

    Catherine, I hope for you and many others it doesn't bless you. What a blooming shambles this all is, all shrouded in secrecy and behind closed doors, so called ''transparency''= ****. This whole thing has become an outright, underhanded attack on the most vulnerable, a true mess, and I still firmly believe we are being lied to around the ''future v current'' situation.

  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Community Member Posts: 297 Empowering

    It would seem that way alexroda.

  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Community Member Posts: 297 Empowering

    Catherine, all we can do is wait now and see how this all unfolds. I am trying so hard to believe things will get better but its very difficult, I understand your anxiety and feel for you and everyone involved. Maybe try and see if you can do something you like doing, even if its eating a big slice of cake or slurping a nice milkshake☺️anything to distract you for a few mins, you have been a real trooper Catherine but even troupers need a little break as hard as it is, sending you a big hug 🤗

  • Socrates63
    Socrates63 Community Member Posts: 69 Empowering

    Hi Catherine 21.

    I have read all mails in this discussion and have asked you a question or 2 before now. Far be it from me to teach grandma to suck eggs etc, so I hope you take it in good faith what I suggest. right now, take time out, take a deep breath and chill. they are the people who have power. not us. all we can do is look after ourselves, so that we can carry on fighting the sods who wish us ill. if need be ignore your phone for 1 day, the problem will still be their when you get back to it. one day isn't asking too much for yourself is it?

    Take care of yourself

    Socrates.

  • tealhoneydew16
    tealhoneydew16 Scope Member Posts: 136 Empowering

    @Catherine21 your a great person on this site and always cheer peeps up…..

    I don't think I have interacted with you, I have saw a few of your posts and wanted to say thank you for all your help with the other comments although, you seem to be struggling yourself…, from afar, although I've not interacted with you, your a great soul, and it shows, thank you! May I send you virtual hugs, and I really hope you get somewhere soon, I'm sure you will , it's the waiting that's worse, and not knowing, I hope you get sorted soon.., just wanted to say thank you!

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Community Member Posts: 410 Pioneering

    @Catherine21

    AI Overview

    Is ESA contribution based legacy benefit ending?

    Answer

    AI OverviewYes, "income-related" Employment and Support Allowance (ESA), a legacy benefit, is being phased out and replaced by Universal Credit. However, "New Style" or contribution-based ESA, which is based on National Insurance contributions, is not ending and can still be claimed alongside or separately from Universal Credit. 

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Community Member Posts: 410 Pioneering

    Also some claimants won't be entitled to UC and will lose everything.

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Community Member Posts: 410 Pioneering

    @Catherine21

    ESA, both contribution-based (New Style ESA) and income-related, is being moved to Universal Credit (UC) through a "managed migration" process. While New Style ESA will continue to exist alongside UC, income-related ESA is being replaced by UC. Claimants of income-related ESA, or income-related ESA with Housing Benefit, will need to claim UC. Here's a breakdown:

    • Contribution-based ESA (New Style ESA):This is not being replaced and will continue to exist alongside UC. You can even get it at the same time as UC, though it may affect your UC payment. 
    • Income-related ESA:This is being replaced by UC. If you are receiving income-related ESA or income-related ESA with Housing Benefit, you will be asked to claim UC as part of the "managed migration". 
    • Managed Migration:The DWP is sending out "migration notices" to those receiving income-related ESA, informing them that they need to claim UC. The process is ongoing, with the aim of completing the migration by a certain date. 
    • Test and Learn:The DWP is also conducting a "test and learn" phase, where a smaller number of claimants are being asked to move to UC to inform the process. 
    • ESA with Housing Benefit:If you are receiving income-related ESA with Housing Benefit, you will also need to claim UC to replace those payments. 
    • Northern Ireland:While this information focuses on England, Scotland, and Wales, the process may differ in Northern Ireland. 

    You will receive a migration notice if you need to move to UC. It will clearly state that it's a migration notice and will give you a specific date by which you need to claim. 

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Community Member Posts: 410 Pioneering
    edited July 2025
  • Socrates63
    Socrates63 Community Member Posts: 69 Empowering

    Hi all,

    upon reading yogi bears mail or post or whatever one calls it I can vouch for what he says concerning my personal experience of the dwp this and I'll quote figures(figures being my personal monies received before and after the migration).

    late March migration letter received. I was in receipt of £320.55 every fortnight, for income received esa in the support group with housing benefit going in full to the landlord. That £320 was mine to live on pay bills etc, etc. Then the dreaded letter…I had interview with dwp. Long story short, my income related esa was being dropped. They gave me phone number to ring esa Dept as they work independently of each other. (these are the tactics they used). Work independently my ****! anyway, I was then moved to the contribution based esa(which they also call new style esa). at same time I was placed on u.c. Two different benefits at same time. soo…my esa dropped from £320 fortnight to £281 a fortnight. a drop of £39? But because I now receive u.c. I get £107 a fortnight also. which means altogether means I'm better off. in both instances I was and still in receipt of housing benefit.

    My one worry originally was the use of names, meaning income related and contribution based. it was my assumption that c.b.only lasted 1year,apparently I am wrong. according to the esa department who I rang.apparantly new style esa is different to the old style ir and cb benefit. hope that makes sense. Socrates 63.

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Community Member Posts: 410 Pioneering

    I'm a she.😂 I'm claim ESA (Contributions Based) and in the support group which isn't time limited. However if I wasn't placed in the support group and had been put into WRAG I would've only got ESA for 12 months.

  • Danny123
    Danny123 Community Member Posts: 229 Empowering

    I get CBESA and LCWRA but no pip

    I get my cbesa every two weeks and my lcwra at the end of the month.... My ESA gets deducted from it

  • Socrates63
    Socrates63 Community Member Posts: 69 Empowering

    Hi yogibear,

    I'm so sorry for misunderstanding you for a he. If ever there was a case for a person showing their age, that was it by, on account of I used to love the cartoons as a kid. although I was slightly too old for it at the time. anyways my apology and I shall immediately slap my wrist and castigate myself for it. 😉

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Community Member Posts: 410 Pioneering
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    YogiBear Community Member Posts: 410 Pioneering
  • Tumilty
    Tumilty Community Member Posts: 506 Empowering

    When filling the form in do you put your rent for housing benefit when applying as usually it's dealt with by local council. Are DWP and local council in cahoots.

  • Socrates63
    Socrates63 Community Member Posts: 69 Empowering

    Hi tumilty

    I can only speak for myself but actually spoke to the person when migrating over and they assured me that they would take care of hb themselves, and they did to my discovery after I rang my local council offices and they indeed confirmed dwp had been in touch and all sorted. hope that helps.

  • Tumilty
    Tumilty Community Member Posts: 506 Empowering

    @Socrates63 thanks for your reply I did think that.

    Also I hear that they are a different department to ESA and they also contact them regarding health and reasons on ESA..We worry about stuff because of our health issues but generally is straight forward.

    Socrates the great Brazilian midfielder.

  • Socrates63
    Socrates63 Community Member Posts: 69 Empowering

    Hi tumilty

    Shucks, I don't like to brag. That was many moons ago. I also been know to dabble in the old philosophy as a sideline 😉. re:about your post concerning health etc, yes they do go into it with your local council. assuming you're in council or housing association. suppose they have to, to cover themselves. understandable I suppose. Take care

    socrates.

  • Socrates63
    Socrates63 Community Member Posts: 69 Empowering

    Hi again tumilty,

    I can't for the life of me work out the punchline on that one. I've been on it for hours. no, sorry uve beaten me. put me out of my misery. What a bizarre picture I've got in my mind, the great socrates on the team bench smoking a ****(terribly hooked on the fags by the way) talking team tactics in a Scottish accent. Funnily enough he almost caused a coup in his own country by threatening to bring to team(national) out on strike over pay. He was a very deep thinker of politics. Hence his nickname socrates. one of the coolest of footballers ever to play the game. in my humble opinion of course. funnily enough I almost used my old username but thought better of it. Just thought I'd share that. 🤔