Immigration hotel costs

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  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 3,419 Championing

    The Bibby Stockholm was not a prison - the residents were free to roam around Weymouth and Portland as they wished - they had bus passes provided for them for free.

    Bed and Breakfast normally costs upwards of £50 per night in Weymouth..

    The fact is that they were coming FROM far worse conditions (tents) so why should they expect luxurious conditions ?

    There is talk, now of holding them in far worse conditions……. in large holding camps, behind barbed wire in huts….

  • idk
    idk Online Community Member Posts: 68 Empowering

    They got to go out for a walk?! Heaven forbid!

    Human rights are for all humans.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 3,419 Championing

    There is absolutely nothing nearby to walk too - there's the end of chesil beach (an immense pile of stones) but apart from that, it's all views !

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 3,419 Championing
    edited August 2025

    How are they treated in, say Germany ?

    How much do they receive there ?

    Seems to be 441 euros per month

  • charlie79
    charlie79 Online Community Member Posts: 352 Empowering

    To be honest I think people are stressed. Last recession people could afford to have a roof as rents were attainable over head but struggled all luxuries put on hold .

    I think it's the fact that people in uk are being told to accept that the country is in debt . Losing there homes and mental health rife.

    People with disabilities having trauma placed on top. With uc trying to get financial help to survive. Having to show evidence to validate anything and wait for claims or having to wait extensive waiting times to get help.

    All this being British citizen but someone can come in a boat and get all support roof food immediately and a case worker appointed immediately. That's what's fueling the anger.

    I think the boats it needs to be a joining of all nations to support refugees . Not individual country's with different policy's.

    Countries have no money and climate war this is just going to increase and create hate and racism .

    We are all born with 2 ears eyes nose blood and bones. It's a shame peace doesn't rule the world and money does

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,535 Championing

    I'm butting in with a personal interest before/in case this thread is closed!

    Wibbles, I know Portland well and have family there. My dad worked at AUWE on Portland. Did you and your sister grow up there and if so, where did you go to school? It's very unlikely we're related but you never know!

    I agree it was an odd place to moor the barge but there must be things to do there if some islanders have never set foot off the island, even to Weymouth 😉

    According to Google, the 500 asylum seekers once housed on the Bibby Stockholm have been relocated around the country and the barge was decommissioned in January.

  • idk
    idk Online Community Member Posts: 68 Empowering

    So they get money money in Germany? So there must be a reason why they choose the UK, over say, Germany, perhaps they have family here, or jobs they can do?

    Honestly, if people seeking asylum were allowed to work, thus paying tax, that might have a net benefit on the economy. Let's face it, there are a lot of British born people who refuse to do certain jobs, say food delivery, or fruit picking for example.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 3,419 Championing
    edited August 2025

    Neither of us grew up on Portland - my sister moved to Portland a few years ago after she lived in Weymouth for many years (decades) !

    There's fishing and collecting pebbles….

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 4,122 Championing

    I hope it does continue to be closely monitored. Thank you.

    I'm not clear as to why @wibbles feels his/her image posted earlier contributes anything meaningful to the discussion? Or his/her intent? It only seeks to undermine and discredit any of their further comments.

    On a separate note, when people are not only discerning about what information they believe, but informed enough to know that racism comes in many guises, including covert and insidious behaviour, then they'll better understand when to call it out.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 3,419 Championing

    In addition to 441 Euros, living expenses per month - they receive 191 Euros pocket money per month to spend on frivolities !!

  • idk
    idk Online Community Member Posts: 68 Empowering

    Good, I'm not sure what point you think you're making, but I'm glad Germany is treating humans like humans.

    Whatever you do, don't look into the Scandinavian prison system.

  • WelshBlue
    WelshBlue Online Community Member Posts: 1,019 Championing

    You're wrong about on demand dental/ GP care.

    I've got no axe to grind in this thread … BUT … as someone who lives across from a council estate where there is a house just for asylum seekers right opposite me,

    and all sources quoted work for Social Services

    2 young Somalian men … jumped the queue in the local medical and dentistry clinics, in the height of the anger about pensioners losing the heating money, their heating was on all day every day … physics showed that by the visible vapour

    They left 2 weeks ago … the reason … the town was too quiet and the local Co-op too expensive … biggest whammy because people spoke Welsh

    All this after the council gave them a fully renovated house with up to date technology, stuff that many would give their right arms for, free of charge

    As I said no axe to grind here … but boy something is really wrong with the system when you can pick and choose ?

  • idk
    idk Online Community Member Posts: 68 Empowering

    That's just factually inaccurate, perhaps they were immigrants, maybe here on a sponsored visa, but they wouldn't have been asylum seekers, there's a big difference, despite media conflating the two.

    Asylum seekers don't get a choice, here's the government website - https://www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get

    So chances are, the people you are talking about came here through immigration channels, and quite likely have a source of financial support that isn't the council.

    Such a house you talk about doesn't sound like a council property, sounds like a private property.

    Unless of course you saw all the documents to prove otherwise, which would be really strange, and a GDPR violation.

    There's a multi occupancy house next door to me that was recently renovated, several immigrants live there, it's run by a company that provides houses for immigrants though.

    I live in a pretty poor area, at least half the people on my street are immigrants, but you know what I do? The classic northern thing of getting to know them, some of them aren't interested, but others are very friendly, sometimes get some eid snacks.

  • Albus_Alumni
    Albus_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 11,423 Championing
    edited August 2025

    Let's keep things civil please @Ranald that line of questioning can only lead to people falling out. It'd be much more useful to throw some verified stats into the conversation. 😉

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 4,122 Championing

    Same here @Ranald but doubt even Wibbles knows!😉. Don't know about you but I've got more to do with my precious time than 'provide verified stats' (no disrespect to you @Albus) as it's perfectly acceptable to challenge, not appease;. not only somebody's reason. But their intent. Think we can use our own judgement to work that one out!

  • WelshBlue
    WelshBlue Online Community Member Posts: 1,019 Championing

    @idk … it's a council house, maintained by council workers, with council social services looking after them. And yes asylum seekers. That is fact from the mouths of people in the know … believe what you want, I'll still sleep tonight

    I've no skin in this game. From the far right to the total left. Both factions can be foul mouthed, inciting hatred as I witnessed the other week walking past a 'stop the boats' demonstration. The foulest mouth came from a woman old enough to know better remonstrating against the protest. The police did nothing when it was at the very least a Section 5 public order offence … possibly Affray

    … definitely assault when she threw a bottle of water over me when I asked how many she would put up

    Over and out on this thread

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,535 Championing
    edited August 2025

    Neither of us grew up on Portland - my sister moved to Portland a few years ago after she lived in Weymouth for many years (decades) !

    There's fishing and collecting pebbles….

    So did your sister raise a family in Weymouth? Did she fall in love with a Portlander or does she like fishing? 😄 (that's my brother's story, married a Portlander, grandson about to start secondary school)

    Imagine if someone in my family knows someone in yours! Portland is a tiny place.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,535 Championing
    edited August 2025

    (to other members who have commented on this thread - I know I'm being incredibly selfish by-passing the topic under discussion)

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 1,397 Championing

    I'm not talking about genuine refugees but those who I have seen online bragging about the hotel etc. I if they were fleeing why not stay in France, ltaly etc they are safe country. Those who have done crimes should be deported not countless appeals and granted by soft judges. I've seen clips with them taking swans ,ducks, pigeons even cats by one it was reported.

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