Is Scope Disability Friendly anymore?
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No, I've not mentioned you by name.
I've simply explained why certain threads are closed and why.
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Evening all, tensions are getting a little high, and we think it may be best to pause this discussion for the evening and reopen it tomorrow, when everyone has had a chance to calm down.
It’s clear that many members feel strongly about current tensions, and this is a good time to reflect on the fact that sometimes, even when we don’t intend it, our words can carry weight that causes upset or harm to others, and that can stay with them.
While this discussion is paused, please avoid carrying this disagreement into other discussions.
Have a good evening all.
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Good morning, we're reopening this discussion in case anyone has anything else they are still wishing to add.
If anyone else is looking to comment, please avoid naming or criticising other members. If you have concerns about specific interactions or members, please report it to us directly so that we can review them fairly.
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Note from the online community team:
Thank you for everyone's feedback so far. It's clear there are some genuine concerns and people feeling hurt at the moment.
We’ve noticed an increase in tension across several recent discussions, with a number of members expressing that they feel targeted, dismissed, or spoken to in a way that doesn’t reflect the supportive spirit of this community.
We also want to address a rise in comments that, while sometimes ambiguous in wording, can come across as passive-aggressive, sarcastic, or needling. We always try to give the benefit of the doubt regarding intent. However, when tensions are already heightened, even brief or indirect remarks can escalate situations or cause hurt.
It’s absolutely okay to disagree, healthy debate is part of a community. But dismissive reactions, sarcastic responses, or comments that undermine others’ contributions are not acceptable.
Where we see patterns of behaviour that contribute to friction, even if individually subtle, we will step in.
We ask everyone to be mindful of how their words may be received, particularly during disagreements. Please focus on ideas rather than individuals, and consider whether your comment adds constructively to the discussion.
Thank you to everyone who continues to contribute thoughtfully and respectfully.3 -
Thank you for raising this @MW123, I will feed this back to the team.
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I've sent you a PM about this @Chris75_
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I have had a couple of people putting me down for my point of view dosent match there's. I withdraw as critism is hard, especially if you be through abuse. I think that having a point of view, different to others, shouldn't cause people to think that there right and your wrong. Everyone has different perspective of looking at things. I tend not to come scope much now. Only really to look at benefits advice. As I feel it's not good for my mental health
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Ad hominem - insulting/attacking the person, rather than focusing on what they said. I have seen that happen here, a lot.
No need to insult others, especially here. If you can't respond without insulting or getting angry at someone, then just don't reply and move on. You do not need to reply to everything.
Most of what is posted on Scope is done so to create meaningful discussions, to share information and ideas.
It's not always easy to leave emotions out of it, but the saying "if you don't have something nice to say" comes to mind 😄.
You can disagree with something without being hurtful and unkind.
YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESPOND TO EVERYTHING ON HERE.
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May I just say that it's good to see you @Andi66 - we share hypermobility problems, & I know you have so much else going on too.
I agree with @Ross1975 - & it seems many others do too.
@Well_Well_Well - what can be said other than you very 'well' & appropriately responded too! I think you've put it very succinctly, thank you.
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Thank you, yes I take things to heart, having Autism does that.
I used to dread seeing I had notification that these people had put a message on. Which wasn't nice.
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Thank you, things do get to me. I rarely go out now. My hypermobility worse so I'm walking with a stick which I hate.
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Have you considered turning off notifications?
I have all notifications including tagging turned off on here, and many other websites/apps.
That way I'm in control of how I use a website or app.
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Yes, I'm doing a peaky blinders diamond art
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Kimi87
How do I do that ?
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Several members feel they are targeted by others usually the same ones. So when they post anything it is immediately criticised.
They feel their opinion is undermined when they are trying to help others, or looking for support themselves.
We should be looking to support and help each other, not make another member feel worse than when they came on the forum.
We seem to have lost the ability to have a difference of opinion with respect for each other.
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I use facebook where I never encounter any negative issues.
I have seen the threads here on scope which have been quite unpleasant at times and uncalled for.
For that reason I have not engaged in particular topics, especially politics for fear of being subjected to ridicule because I disagree with the fact that some politicians have been insulted based on perception of their physical appearance and their supporters have been labelled with the most unessacery derogatory insults.
This is not grown up debate and it can create unnecessary tension rather than allowing healthy discussions in an environment where we can all feel safe to engage with others who accept differences of opinion and agree to disagree in a respectful manner.
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Hi all, we've removed a couple of posts this evening as they were directed at another member, or spun off from that discussion.
We want to be able to keep this discussion open but if posts continue to be made pointing fingers or assigning blame we will have no choice but to close it.
If anyone else is looking to share feedback, please avoid naming or criticising other members in this thread. If you have concerns about specific interactions, report them directly so we can review them fairly.
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I honestly hope that this thread stays open, as, even tho not everything has been positive, I really think members have tried to explain to the best of their ability issues they've identified.
It seems like we all want this to work, so let's work together. I also appreciate Adrian's input about 'some' issues. The difficulty may be in part how we word things, or come across; perhaps that sometimes a difficult one, but, as had been said by both Adrian & our members, the main thing is that we should be mindful that we address an opinion/the matter being discussed, & not another member, should we disagree.
Like @OverlyAnxious - I've been around since 2019, & tend to respond where I hope I can help with something factual, as others do. Quite honestly I'm amazed at the breadth of knowledge some of our members have. This is so good, & hopefully helps others.
Adrian, sorry but I take issue with saying that perhaps members have been hurt; it can be way more than that; members have stayed away (& been missed), & we don't know how many members we've lost, or never joined due to the content they've seen. Members have been more than hurt, they feel like they don't want to always engage on a forum that is for them. Minimising the effect of such words perhaps doesn't help.
It must be so difficult to act preemptivily, & I know you try, but, may I say as someone who takes a long type to type due to my problems, that it's more than frustrating when your comments disappear due to the action of others.
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