So much for "Andy Burnham is pro Benefits"
"Speaking to the Times a day after Healey's resignation, Andy Burnham said alongside the 10-year approach to defence and security, there needed to be reform of public investment and procurement.
He told the newspaper that this would reduce the welfare bill by bringing recipients into the workforce, ensuring more money was available for defence.
"I am not squeamish about saying that the plan would be to reduce the welfare bill," Burnham said."
It seems that we're damned if we do and damned if we don't !
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He's a red Tory. He helped to cover up the benefits fiasco.
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I hardly think any serious politician is going to declare themselves 'pro benefits'. Any country wants as many people in work as possible.
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I heard it on the grapevine that Burnham is against benefits cuts and is more for giving people support so they can work (carrot without stick).
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I think he's the least worse option. I am not naïve at all, but I know there are people like me who with lots of support and Access to Work being funded properly and more upfront investment would help us. But has does need to remember not everyone can work, and won't ever be able to work.
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I'm sorry WhatThe, but those claims are historically inaccurate and politically biased. I can elaborate if you would like me to.
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Just a reminder to everyone not to bait, goad, or be passive aggressive in your posts please. This applies to all discussions across the community. It's very hot today so let's give each other some grace.
Many thanks
Rachel
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After reading the article on B&W it seems he is indeed against crude benefit cuts, let's hope he stands by this. And lets hope when he talks about "moving towards a more preventative state that makes the right investments to support people into work" that he means carrot without stick.
Here is the article, Burnham not squeamish about reducing welfare bill
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Also - is his finances going to be very North-West centred ?
What about the South West - always missed
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Haha as with most things political thinking and doing are miles apart
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And again 😕
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No politician is 'pro benefits', they are pro working people, the vast majority of voters.
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I don't see your point. Politicians everywhere chase votes, and lauding the fact that millions claim benefits, it's hardly going to help with their electability. They might understand the Importance of a safety net, but still not be 'pro benefits', that phrase implies claiming benefits is a good thing for the country!
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We started off talking about Andy Burnham, now i think you're referring to a possible Reform government; I can't deal in hypotheticals.
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Thats not true Reforms whole "thing" is "stop the Boats" and they are not the only political party who have said they will do that.
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You stated that its Reforms whole thing to stop the boats. Are you saying that is their only policy?
As I stated above Reform aren't the only political party who want to stop the boats but you focus only on Reform saying thats their intention.
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"Defence" as they insist calling it, it certainly won't protect us from a heating planet.
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To invest in the defense industry, you need highly qualified scientists, engineers, and workers. Britain simply doesn't have them, but it does have plenty of environmentalists, bloggers, YouTubers, and the like.
But the money will certainly be spent, rest assured!
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if the Labour Government decides to attack those on benefits again, especially those who desperately need them to survive, then there will be consequences. I know personally it would send me on a downward spiral to a place I would never be able to recover from. At that point I know my DNAR & DNACPR would come into that affect. I just don’t get this country, let alone anything else, I don’t have the greatest of confidence or trust in anyone anymore
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That doesn't prove that stopping the boats is their "whole thing".
Its one of their policies, which some of the other political parties also intend to do.
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The only party who hasnt been scared to be pro benefits is the Green party, but of course if they ever got close to be elected I wouldnt be surprised to see them turn as well. In short I trust no one, Burnham will still have advisors who have advised other leaders, its still the same people running the DWP, and still the same media, MPs etc.
Its also not really pro or anti benefits either. Its really health related benefits specifically. Labour managed to increase the basic rate of UC without the country throwing a fit, they were prepared to uncap child benefits, and still no one dares talk about the triple lock. But health related benefits has become a big target for so many people, its definitely not helped that there is a bunch of people on social media offering advocation as well as effectively showing off their benefit award, this has driven resentment which is still rising. Videos like "how I spend my UC"
A subject which I expect is going to be very sensitive is the question of which is preferable. Current eligibility but hard to apply (many people declined as they dont understand form/descriptors etc. some see this as unfair), or a simpler application process but in turn tighter eligibility to keep the claims down. I think the former is preferable. But all these social media advocates have helped increase success rates, which has drawn attention to the case load. I think even under Burnham we going to see it made easier to get PIP with a strong diagnosis, but people with weak, wrong or no diagnosis will routinely get declined. I expect they will move away from needing to describe needs and such to just awarding based on health condition like they did with DLA. I felt DLA was unfair for this reason.1
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