Are we getting worse at talking to each other?

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  • StarryEyed
    StarryEyed Community Member Posts: 2,067 Championing
  • Rag_793
    Rag_793 Community Member Posts: 841 Empowering

    In a way is Scope Community a form of Social Media?

  • StarryEyed
    StarryEyed Community Member Posts: 2,067 Championing

    Some say yes, some say no. What do you think?

  • Mary_Scope
    Mary_Scope Posts: 6,234 Scope online community team

    I think potentially @Rag_793 as you're still connecting with people, what do you think? Do you count it as social media @StarryEyed?

  • Starman
    Starman Community Member Posts: 2,380 Empowering

    I think it is quite nice just to smile and say 'Morning' when walking the dog, or have a little chat when out and about, but i do think people are probably doing it less. I tend not to walk down the street using my 'phone, i think it is becoming habitual for most people, it's also quite annoying when people then aren't looking where they are going?!😶

  • Rag_793
    Rag_793 Community Member Posts: 841 Empowering
  • 66Mustang
    66Mustang Community Member Posts: 15,550 Championing
    edited October 8

    I think with social media it's less that people are more opinionated (though I agree that they are) and more that the polar opinions are pushed through. Social media amplifies herd mentality because algorithms are trained to show people more content that they're likely to agree with. This means people jump on a bandwagon of supporting content but, more crucially, means when you occasionally see content you disagree with, upon seeing the overwhelming flood of agreement you tend to self-censor your own disagreements to avoid being singled out and attacked

    What this means in the end is instead of having lots of little groups each placed somewhere along a spectrum having minor but productive disagreements to refine their own thoughts, you just get two big groups - one at each end of the spectrum - both reinforcing themselves but also each other (because as each group gets more extreme, it becomes more unacceptable to the opposite group, justifying a doubling-down on that group's own extremeness - which carries on and on perpetually)

  • Rosie_Scope
    Rosie_Scope Posts: 9,819 Scope online community team

    You've put in to words how I feel about it much better than I could @66Mustang! I think social media promotes extremes too. When it comes down to it, I think we're quite a tribal species still and it really plays into that kind of mentality.

    I think we probably have got worse at conversation over time. I've noticed it in myself, especially after isolating for so long during the lockdowns. I feel like I got much worse socially from having that experience.

    But on the other hand, I don't know if I give off a particular vibe that screams 'happy to chat' or something, but I'm often a target for chats at bus stops or on trains. I would say that it's almost always older people who start the conversation, but like others said, I find it really brightens my day!

    And it doesn't happen so much when I'm in London but I get all giddy when people say things like "Hello" or "Lovely day isn't it?" as you pass them in the countryside 😄 just the novelty of it makes me feel good!

  • Rag_793
    Rag_793 Community Member Posts: 841 Empowering

    I honestly think I am less inclined now to communicate, as life has ground me down the last six years. When I put rubbish out, I try and do it early doors and scurry back indoors. If I am on the bus I will have my AirPods on to block out, in town I will put in my loop ear plugs. I know deep down I am not the outgoing and happy person I once was, my mental health and life have made me this way.

  • Amaleihna
    Amaleihna Community Member Posts: 24 Contributor

    I do like to say hello and show people photos of my art but I worry I am a nuisance and do so rarely. I am much more comfortable giving a short compliment before going back to reading than striking up a full conversation. Thank you for sharing the article - very thoughtful/insightful.

  • Rosie_Scope
    Rosie_Scope Posts: 9,819 Scope online community team

    Mental health can really take its toll socially @Rag_793. Just got to get through things in whatever way works best for you ☺️

    That's nice of you @Amaleihna. If it's worth anything, I'd love for someone to show me their art if I was out and about! We have a community gallery here in case you feel you'd like to share your art with us: KaleidoScope: Our own gallery for members' art work, crafts and photographs. No pressure though!

  • 66Mustang
    66Mustang Community Member Posts: 15,550 Championing

    @Rosie_Scope

    People really are tribal in the most literal sense of the word!

    I learnt that social rejection triggers the same neurological threat responses as physical danger because we're evolved to live in tribes, and historically being cast out of the tribe was as mortally dangerous as physical danger

    This means we're evolved to be willing to cast aside our individual beliefs if we feel they're too at odds with those of wider society, because historically if you held beliefs that ostracised you it didn't just mean dislikes on social media, it meant being cast out of the tribe to survive on your own

  • Rosie_Scope
    Rosie_Scope Posts: 9,819 Scope online community team

    Ooh that's so interesting @66Mustang, and makes a lot of sense! I think quite a lot of us might like think we've moved on from that sort of thing, but in reality our whole social systems and individual psychologies are still formed around these very early survival strategies. Fascinating!

  • Amaleihna
    Amaleihna Community Member Posts: 24 Contributor
  • Anhedonia2
    Anhedonia2 Community Member Posts: 456 Empowering

    That's a genuis idea but where do you put the stool when you go on the rides??

  • Rachel_Scope
    Rachel_Scope Posts: 5,417 Scope online community team

    @Anhedonia2 It folds up! It's one of these

    a black telescopic stool
  • Amaleihna
    Amaleihna Community Member Posts: 24 Contributor

    Thankfully, I did just have a wonderful conversation with a stranger! She was a maths teacher and she was a delight to talk to.

  • Epistle_Rich
    Epistle_Rich Community Member Posts: 37 Connected

    Absolutely. Because we're never permitted to take our time to do so. Everything has to be be simultaneously sharp (to the point) and blunt (matter of fact) - no wonder we're always conflicted.

  • Rag_793
    Rag_793 Community Member Posts: 841 Empowering

    I am ashamed as when my mental health goes bad, I immediately shut down, close all avenues of communication, shut the blinds and keep the door locked. What this does is push people away, those people are the ones that you should be talking to when you need it. I have opened my Facebook back up, sent a message to a good friend, had one message back and sent another couple. I asked for another friend’s number, however it would appear he has my number blocked. I only have myself to blame in all honesty. I can only blame my mental health so far, but instead I have to take the burden and realise Bridges that have been burnt and Fences that have been broken cannot be mended.

  • egiste2r
    egiste2r Posts: 287 Connected

    Absolutely not necessarily, there are many facts that refute this point of view, for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lykov_family