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PIP - Going Out

Trev121Trev121 Member Posts: 32 Listener
in PIP, DLA and AA
Hello,
I have dug this out about PIP under the Going Out descriptor.

The Going Out activity looks at three things.

Planning a route (c) - this is primarily a cognitive or sensory (e.g. blindness) activity. You are being asked about the problems you would have with working out how to get from one place to another, you do not need to be able to follow the route that you are planning..

Undertaking a Journey (b) and (e) - this is do with mental health issues such as agoraphobia and social anxiety and is concerned with you leaving the house to go somewhere, they will be interested in the things that stop you doing this. You need to show that you would suffer "overwhelming psychological distress" to meet the criteria.

Following a route (d) and (f) - the DWP regard this as a cognitive or sensory activity to do with navigating the route, SO are there problems that would prevent you from doing this? This is different from undertaking a journey, in fact if you cannot undertake a journey then you will struggle to score points for following one. The reasons that you are unable to follow or navigate the route must not be due to psychological distress.

I have COPD. I am not all at confident about leaving my house because I always suffer anxiety and distress and fear of having exacerbation's, panic attacks and psychological distress due to my breathing problems with COPD. I do not really have cognitive/sensory impairment, but I do need prompting/encouragement to actually leave my house because of the above anxiety/distress, etc, So do my problems come under Undertaking a Journey (b)?
thanks
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  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi Trev
    As a fellow COPD sufferer I understand what you are saying, it never occured to me that planning and following a journey may be applicable. I think you will have a job to get it accepted as any MH issues are very hard to get an award for.
    Breathing and panic attacks can certainly have an affect on walking distances when you apply the Safely, Repeatedly and to an acceptable standard requirements
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
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  • Trev121Trev121 Member Posts: 32 Listener
    Hi CockneyR'
    Good to meet a fellow COPD sufferer, and point taken - there is little sympathy for MH issues. Perhaps decision-makers should try putting bags over their heads, and see how it feels to be short of breath. 
    thanks
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  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    We were going to have a party for people with COPD but could not blow up the baloons :)
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
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  • Trev121Trev121 Member Posts: 32 Listener
    quite right - and neither is it likely we'd ever get prosecuted for Drink/driving, after being asked to blow into a breathalyser!
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  • YadnadYadnad Member [under moderation] Posts: 2,862 Disability Gamechanger
    Trev121 said:
    quite right - and neither is it likely we'd ever get prosecuted for Drink/driving, after being asked to blow into a breathalyser!
    You would and probably receive a more serious penalty for refusing to give a breath test.
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  • kami24kami24 Member Posts: 347 Pioneering
    THello I want to work as doing literally nothing or very little doesn't help my issues at all but I have had 33jobs so not sure if I can stay in a job. If I work would I get working tax credits or universal credits?? Orwould it be a lot less than on benefits?? Very confusing and I would like to work if possible because people judge you on benefits and if makes my mental health worse 
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  • kami24kami24 Member Posts: 347 Pioneering
    I'm on pip and have bpd
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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    kami24 said:
    THello I want to work as doing literally nothing or very little doesn't help my issues at all but I have had 33jobs so not sure if I can stay in a job. If I work would I get working tax credits or universal credits?? Orwould it be a lot less than on benefits?? Very confusing and I would like to work if possible because people judge you on benefits and if makes my mental health worse 

    Whether you'll be better off working i have no idea, for this you'll need further advice from your local CAB.

    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
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  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,729 Disability Gamechanger
    Don’t really see a problem with you qualifying via this route. It’s you that’s decided it’s about cognitive impairment. As with all of PIP it’s about physical or mental ill health. 
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  • Trev121Trev121 Member Posts: 32 Listener
    Thanks for your replies, everyone
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  • MisscleoMisscleo Member Posts: 646 Pioneering
    Very interesting and me too".
    I like the put a bag over their heads.
    Most people have no understanding of the problems we struggle with 
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