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Online appeal

Bdh2008Bdh2008 Member Posts: 14 Listener
edited July 2019 in PIP, DLA and AA
hi I lodged my appeal online back in September still awaiting date for hearing. I am confused as to whether I will have the appeal online too? I’m in the midlands and have just read about appeals being held online now so am confused as to what will happen now. Thanks 

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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,891 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi,

    Appearing in person will give you the best chance of a decision in your favour (74%) Paper based decisions are possible but the chances of success are much lower between 5-8%. I've not heard of Tribunals being held online to be honest.

    You can ring HMCTS to ask what the timescales are in your area but backlogs for a lot of areas are huge and some are waiting at least 1 year for a hearing date. Once they have a date they will write to you to tell you when and what time.
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  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Testing team Posts: 8,052

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    Online 'text box' tribunals were being trialled in the Midlands amongst a few other pilot areas, the last I heard. Apparently they'll be reviewed by the same panel who would attend an in-person tribunal. If the decision from that appeal is disagreed with by the appellant, then they can progress to an in-person hearing as well.
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  • Bdh2008Bdh2008 Member Posts: 14 Listener
    Does does this mean because I appealed online my tribunal will be online as I’m in the Midlands? 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,891 Disability Gamechanger
    As you requested your Tribunal in September of last year then you really should contact them to ask. You may receive a date very soon and you do need to be prepared for this. Any extra evidence you need to send should be sent no later than 10 days before the hearing date.

    Maybe some face to face advice will help. This link will tell you what's available in your area. https://advicelocal.uk/

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  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Testing team Posts: 8,052

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    Hi @Bdh2008. Unless you were specifically told you'd be a part of the online tribunal trials, I wouldn't expect your tribunal to be online, but there's really no way of knowing. As Poppy said, it's best you contact them to find out.
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  • Bdh2008Bdh2008 Member Posts: 14 Listener
    Ok thank you I will contact them I have someone from welfare rights representing me. He has said he will go through it all with me when I have a date. 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,891 Disability Gamechanger
    edited June 2019
    You have representation which so many people find very difficult to get. You should ask them any questions you have and they will be able to tell you everything you're unsure about, it's one of the reasons why you have representation. Good luck with the appeal.
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  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 7,101 Disability Gamechanger
    I am unclear as to why it’s being said there’s no way of knowing what will happen next. Everything is in the public domain and has been for much of the past 3 years. Continuous online appeal resolution (online only appeal) is being piloted in London and Manchester only. That would rule out the Midlands immediately. None of the cases selected for the pilot will involve cases where there’s a representative. That would also rule out this case. 

    I’ve no idea what a “text box tribunal” beyond a phrase used by the Benefits and Work web site which wrongly infers that all appeals will go the COAR route unless an oral hearing is deemed appropriate. No, you have to ask for COAR. It also suggests that if you don’t like the outcome you can switch to an oral hearing. Nope. The outcome is the outcome. However, in the course of a COAR if any party feels it’s no longer the best route then they can ask to switch to an oral, video, phone or even paper hearing. 

    So, no, you will have the type of hearing you requested in your online SSCS1. It ain’t an online one. 

    Now, would someone from Scope like to explain where all my other posts have gone this week? I’ve answered several questions including one where asked to do so directly. Nothing has been published for several days.
  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Testing team Posts: 8,052

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    Hi Mike,
    Thanks for the information. A very interesting development in the digitisation of the appeal process.

    As for why your posts haven't been approved. We've been in discussion about this and while some of your posts continue to breach our guidelines, you'll remain on moderation. If you want to discuss this further, you're welcome to email us at [email protected]
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