I created one of the campaign election videos for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
You can see the video here.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY
This activity does not consider the ability to manage clothing, climb stairs or mobilise to the toilet.
Bathing, why do you need help with this? Do you need help to get into a bath? do you use aids to help you do this? If they think aids can reasonably be used, whether you use them or not then they will score you 2 points for needing an aid, rather than needing assistance. If you need assistance then you need to tell them why you need this and why using an aid will not be helpful to you.
Have a read of these links. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/personal-independence-payment-assessment-guide-for-assessment-providers/pip-assessment-guide-part-2-the-assessment-criteria#daily-living-activities
Government_needs_reform said:@happymaan no one can wave a magic wand and or decide you get PIP. I've wrote you some useful information, just follow what Ive said starting with when you get the decision letter through and build your case for the Mandatory reconsideration.
I'm off to bed now. Take care as best as you can.
Here is a screenshot that I won for my PIP.was this after the tribunal, or when you asked for it to be looked at again
cristobal said:@happyman - I'm sorry to hear what you have been going through.
As others have said you can ask for a mandatory reconsideration of the decision and to do this successfully you really do familiarise yourself with the information that is available on the links that Poppy has provided.
It helped me to look at it as though I were sitting an exam - so before I wrote anything I made certain that I understood exactly what the question was. Once I'd done this I avoided things that weren't relevant such as getting up and down stairs ('mobility' doesn't cover that), getting dried after a bath (not covered) etc..
Once you know what is involved in each area, go through methodically and give examples of what you can't do, whether you need assistance or aids etc.
Be specific - don't talk in general terms. So when you say that you can't cook be more detailed.
Cooking comes under 'preparing food' - essentially making a meal for one from fresh ingredients. Are you able to peel and chop? Do you need to sit down whilst you do it? Do you forget that you've left something on the stove? If you have then say what happened?
Was it dangerous?
You'll need to go through everything carefully so it will take some time - best to do a little bit each day so that it doesn't become overwhelming.
Finally don't forget that you are NOT on your own - there are plenty of people on this forum who will help you ...
Welcome to the community @kensplace, it's great to have you here.kensplace said:SKipped past rest of thread just replying to o/p post.It most likely does not matter what you say, the assessor will lie anyway. YOu might get lucky and get a honest one, but expect them to be scum and to lie and disregard what you say.Re suicide - I once told my story to a assessor (missing a limb he was in case he is reading so he recognises himself) and he actually said to me if your life went so bad and things got so bad how come you did not kill yourself. Basically he did not believe I could be mentally ill as I was alive.....Thtas the sort of scum Im on about....Dont worry. Just ask for the assessment to be recorded and expect a pack of lies to come through the post. If your lucky and its fine then all is well its a win. If not at least you expected the worst...... DO NOT TRUST THEM.Take a witness also.
Hi Happyman..I`ve read through this post and all it`s comments.happyman said:cristobal said:@happyman - I'm sorry to hear what you have been going through.
As others have said you can ask for a mandatory reconsideration of the decision and to do this successfully you really do familiarise yourself with the information that is available on the links that Poppy has provided.
It helped me to look at it as though I were sitting an exam - so before I wrote anything I made certain that I understood exactly what the question was. Once I'd done this I avoided things that weren't relevant such as getting up and down stairs ('mobility' doesn't cover that), getting dried after a bath (not covered) etc..
Once you know what is involved in each area, go through methodically and give examples of what you can't do, whether you need assistance or aids etc.
Be specific - don't talk in general terms. So when you say that you can't cook be more detailed.
Cooking comes under 'preparing food' - essentially making a meal for one from fresh ingredients. Are you able to peel and chop? Do you need to sit down whilst you do it? Do you forget that you've left something on the stove? If you have then say what happened?
Was it dangerous?
You'll need to go through everything carefully so it will take some time - best to do a little bit each day so that it doesn't become overwhelming.
Finally don't forget that you are NOT on your own - there are plenty of people on this forum who will help you ...thank you. i am rubbish at filling in forms and doing all this and that is what i am worried about. i have been told that going to c a b would be a waste of time. i just dont understand the lies on the report. she has put on there that i did things which i did not. she also put down that i successful did some tests that she did and i told her i couldnt. i have read alot about the mandoraty decision and it says that basically they just go in favour of the assessor.
Thank you. I have just come from an emergency appointment with you doctor. They have said they have shocked and if they started to contact the medical people looking after patient service thn they would get the real story. They have told me not to let it go and fight it. I am just worried about forms etc as I am no good at stuff like thispollyanna1052 said:Hi Happyman..I`ve read through this post and all it`s comments.happyman said:cristobal said:@happyman - I'm sorry to hear what you have been going through.
As others have said you can ask for a mandatory reconsideration of the decision and to do this successfully you really do familiarise yourself with the information that is available on the links that Poppy has provided.
It helped me to look at it as though I were sitting an exam - so before I wrote anything I made certain that I understood exactly what the question was. Once I'd done this I avoided things that weren't relevant such as getting up and down stairs ('mobility' doesn't cover that), getting dried after a bath (not covered) etc..
Once you know what is involved in each area, go through methodically and give examples of what you can't do, whether you need assistance or aids etc.
Be specific - don't talk in general terms. So when you say that you can't cook be more detailed.
Cooking comes under 'preparing food' - essentially making a meal for one from fresh ingredients. Are you able to peel and chop? Do you need to sit down whilst you do it? Do you forget that you've left something on the stove? If you have then say what happened?
Was it dangerous?
You'll need to go through everything carefully so it will take some time - best to do a little bit each day so that it doesn't become overwhelming.
Finally don't forget that you are NOT on your own - there are plenty of people on this forum who will help you ...thank you. i am rubbish at filling in forms and doing all this and that is what i am worried about. i have been told that going to c a b would be a waste of time. i just dont understand the lies on the report. she has put on there that i did things which i did not. she also put down that i successful did some tests that she did and i told her i couldnt. i have read alot about the mandoraty decision and it says that basically they just go in favour of the assessor.
I am at the point where I`m awaiting the decision following my f2f on the 3rd Oct.
I see so often that we are advised to ask for a copy of their report. But I cant bear the thought of reading possible lie and then having to wait until the decision comes. I know it would completely do my head in. Like you, I simply cannot believe how these assessors lies are upheld. Why on earth is this allowed to continue? The government must know what`s going on. We teach our children to be honest, yet the highest office gets away with lying. It is totally wrong and goes against everything we were brought up with.
I feel so bad for you and worry that I may get the same treatment, despite needing huge amounts of help to live daily.
My best wishes to you and your family.
Chloe_Scope said:Welcome to the community @kensplace, it's great to have you here.kensplace said:SKipped past rest of thread just replying to o/p post.It most likely does not matter what you say, the assessor will lie anyway. YOu might get lucky and get a honest one, but expect them to be scum and to lie and disregard what you say.Re suicide - I once told my story to a assessor (missing a limb he was in case he is reading so he recognises himself) and he actually said to me if your life went so bad and things got so bad how come you did not kill yourself. Basically he did not believe I could be mentally ill as I was alive.....Thtas the sort of scum Im on about....Dont worry. Just ask for the assessment to be recorded and expect a pack of lies to come through the post. If your lucky and its fine then all is well its a win. If not at least you expected the worst...... DO NOT TRUST THEM.Take a witness also.
I'm so sorry to read about how unfair the assessor was!
Did you appeal the decision?
Government_needs_reform said:kensplace said:SKipped past rest of thread just replying to o/p post.It most likely does not matter what you say, the assessor will lie anyway. YOu might get lucky and get a honest one, but expect them to be scum and to lie and disregard what you say.Re suicide - I once told my story to a assessor (missing a limb he was in case he is reading so he recognises himself) and he actually said to me if your life went so bad and things got so bad how come you did not kill yourself. Basically he did not believe I could be mentally ill as I was alive.....Thtas the sort of scum Im on about....Dont worry. Just ask for the assessment to be recorded and expect a pack of lies to come through the post. If your lucky and its fine then all is well its a win. If not at least you expected the worst...... DO NOT TRUST THEM.Take a witness also.@kensplace As you've skipped the thread the OP has had and failed the PIP assessment. So maybe a good idea to keep up. ?
please share your experiencekensplace said:Chloe_Scope said:Welcome to the community @kensplace, it's great to have you here.kensplace said:SKipped past rest of thread just replying to o/p post.It most likely does not matter what you say, the assessor will lie anyway. YOu might get lucky and get a honest one, but expect them to be scum and to lie and disregard what you say.Re suicide - I once told my story to a assessor (missing a limb he was in case he is reading so he recognises himself) and he actually said to me if your life went so bad and things got so bad how come you did not kill yourself. Basically he did not believe I could be mentally ill as I was alive.....Thtas the sort of scum Im on about....Dont worry. Just ask for the assessment to be recorded and expect a pack of lies to come through the post. If your lucky and its fine then all is well its a win. If not at least you expected the worst...... DO NOT TRUST THEM.Take a witness also.
I'm so sorry to read about how unfair the assessor was!
Did you appeal the decision?Thanks Chloe, yes I appealed, and eventually won. In fact year after year I appealed and won as they did it over and over to me.. One year I lost the appeal as welfare rights "forgot" to turn up so it ended going to upper tribunal - I won that too..... The horror stories I could tell...
kensplace said:Chloe_Scope said:Welcome to the community @kensplace, it's great to have you here.kensplace said:SKipped past rest of thread just replying to o/p post.It most likely does not matter what you say, the assessor will lie anyway. YOu might get lucky and get a honest one, but expect them to be scum and to lie and disregard what you say.Re suicide - I once told my story to a assessor (missing a limb he was in case he is reading so he recognises himself) and he actually said to me if your life went so bad and things got so bad how come you did not kill yourself. Basically he did not believe I could be mentally ill as I was alive.....Thtas the sort of scum Im on about....Dont worry. Just ask for the assessment to be recorded and expect a pack of lies to come through the post. If your lucky and its fine then all is well its a win. If not at least you expected the worst...... DO NOT TRUST THEM.Take a witness also.
I'm so sorry to read about how unfair the assessor was!
Did you appeal the decision?Thanks Chloe, yes I appealed, and eventually won. In fact year after year I appealed and won as they did it over and over to me.. One year I lost the appeal as welfare rights "forgot" to turn up so it ended going to upper tribunal - I won that too..... The horror stories I could tell...
when you go to a pip assessment and vulnerable you don't expect to be asked why you have tried suicide yet