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  • cupcake88
    cupcake88 Posts: 1,273 Pioneering
    edited January 2021
    Well I called you a <moderator removed - profanity> because your being one . Your being mean we don’t make the rules of the dwp  . Yes I have Read the thread and every ones comments and I’ll say it again . No one is paid to give advise on this site and the advice I have received off here as been some of the best . 
    You have personally attacked some one this site who gives the the best benefit advice In her own free time this is a lady who has really helped me with advice and had been so patience and understanding with me and she also helps many others on here I won’t sit back why you bully people . It was because of a bully why I became disabled in the first place . 

    My anxiety is bad today just taken a diazepam and I haven’t got time to listen to this **** if I’m honest. I have been nice and polite to you and so has others but your being rude now . I’m not a mean person ask any one on here but I’m not gonna see others been attacked on this forum . 

    Like I said I’m pretty <moderator removed - profanity> that I can’t claim any thing else because of my partners income that’s the rules of the government write to them if your annoyed . 
  • Bagpuss56
    Bagpuss56 Community member Posts: 19 Listener
    edited January 2021
    you have been nice and polite and called me an (Removed by moderator, profanity) and a (Removed by moderator, profanity), bit of discrepancy there i would say, you have become rude and offensive not me, and you have a perfect right not to listen to this (Removed by moderator, profanity), but as others are saying to me you do not have the right to call me a bully whilst verbally abusing me by calling me a (Removed by moderator, profanity)
  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Community member Posts: 16,007 Disability Gamechanger
    May I say that you can of course disagree with a comment made, or advice given. How you disagree also matters.
    As you know how PIP works, I'm sure you know that assessors write their opinion after listening to a claimant. They are limited to a certain extent by the software they have to use. Therefore they might give the option which is the closest they feel for any applicable descriptor. There is also unfortunately much use of 'cut & paste' phrases, which often bear little resemblance to what the HCP has heard/observed, but which are nonetheless used.
    Many people successfully claim PIP, but many members here have not had the result they had expected, so we usually see the latter group.
    My own assessment was fairly accurate, but there was one 'cut & paste' phrase saying, 'because I didn't see a pain specialist nor a physiotherapy specialist,' I could walk further without being in pain than the 6metres I'd been seen to walk. This despite the fact that I'd mentioned 3 or 4 times in my claim pack that I am a physiotherapist. I had also mentioned this to the HCP, & she had written this down in her report. The only other evidence was a letter from my GP, which said pain medication was largely ineffective in those with my disorder, & he also wrote that I was a physio. Obviously I didn't neatly fit into any box either.
    This 'may' have happened in this situation. It's often difficult to prove an HCP's 'inaccuracies.' In my case I sent of a photocopy proving my qualification; you may be able to show proof about your medical evidence. However, if it gets to a Tribunal, then as with the preceding MR, it's better to give more weight to where points should have been awarded, & exactly why, rather than try & disprove an HCP's report. A person's individual response matters more than medical evidence, as only the individual knows how their disability impacts on functional activities, which is what PIP is all about.
    It's taken me ages to type this, & I wonder why I bothered as I'm not feeling too great.....to look back & see the comments you've just sent......no comment.

  • cupcake88
    cupcake88 Posts: 1,273 Pioneering
    I’m a nice person that’s one thing my disability hasn’t taken from me I’m a kind person I  have never used a bad word on this site ask any one . I have been very nice and so has every one else but I will not stand by and read personal attacks on people . This forum is like family to me and the friends I have made on here . I not got time for this I’m going to go eat my pizza I’m just saying I’m a very nice person but I won’t not speak up for What’s right . If I get In trouble for swearing then I’m sorry admin don’t kick me off the site but I’m defending what I feel is right . 
  • cupcake88
    cupcake88 Posts: 1,273 Pioneering
    @Bagpuss56 don’t be starting on me bagpuss what do you wish to achieve here . 




  • four4mum
    four4mum Community member Posts: 7 Connected
    edited January 2021
    After having read all of the comments on this thread, I have come to the conclusion that if you happen to disagree with someone, or have a different opinion then you are called an aa (Removed by moderator, profanity)and a bully.

    This was my first visit here and my very first comment, and possibly my last, as I'm afraid that I don't find it very friendly at all.

    Thank you for opening my eyes to the way in which you treat newcomers to the chat forum of Scope. Hopefully the rest of the website will be more helpful to me 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 53,330 Disability Gamechanger
    We have had members here on the community who have come and posted their story, be it for advice, or just to post their story. Having applied for PIP and been refused or not had the award they were perhaps hoping for. So they took it all the way to Tribunal, yet still been refused. We've also had members here that have had an award and took it to Tribunal because they thought they were entitled to more points for a higher award, yet they've gone to Tribunal and lost everything they have.

    Their story included " at Tribunal i stated all the lies that were told in the report" yet still i wasn't awarded. So my advice not to concentrate on the report in this way was perfectly good advice because it can definitely harm a case by doing this.

    If you have strong evidence that proves you qualify for a higher award then that evidence should speak for itself at any Tribunal and there will be no need to concentrate on everything that was said in any report.

    You clearly stated in your first post that you didn't like the advice i gave, yet you still deciced to start another thread to continue what you disagreed with, was there really any need to continue in a new thread?

    I asked you many times to please stop the personal attacks, yet you continued. All of this because i advised you not to concentrate on the report... dear oh dear!
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • cupcake88
    cupcake88 Posts: 1,273 Pioneering
    edited January 2021
    I called him a <moderator removed - profanity> it was one word and I’m really friendly thank you I’m also some one has been threw a lot of trauma and I don’t like bullies so I’m standing up for my friend so if you think I’m horrible then that’s your problem I’m a nice person and now I’m feeling like **** but I’m glad I spoke up for what’s right I’m not a horrible person I’m just not good with my words especially when in situations like this . 
    I might just leave this forum because I don’t like seeing people get spoken to badly for giving good advise it’s always the same things people get rude bout . Complain to your local mp write to the government don’t start slating people on here . I’m not apologising because you are a <moderator removed - profanity> so there . People who know me know I’m a nice person they also know I’m would do any any thing for any one . If that’s how you feel then that’s how you feel .
  • Lulu_1949
    Lulu_1949 Community member Posts: 236 Pioneering
    @four4mum
    welcome to the site, I hope you find some useful helpful information from all members.
    happy New Year x
  • woodbine
    woodbine Community member Posts: 11,519 Disability Gamechanger
    four4mum said:
    After having read all of the comments on this thread, I have come to the conclusion that if you happen to disagree with someone, or have a different opinion then you are called an a*******, a **** and a bully.

    This was my first visit here and my very first comment, and possibly my last, as I'm afraid that I don't find it very friendly at all.

    Thank you for opening my eyes to the way in which you treat newcomers to the chat forum of Scope. Hopefully the rest of the website will be more helpful to me 
    I'm going against my own advice now @four4mum this thread is in no way representative of what we usually see on scope, which is a friendly and welcoming forum, what you see here are people defending people we see as important to the forum.
    Before you write us off have a good look round the forum, this thread is the exception not the rule and yes sadly its not been a great way to start the new year but like all "families" we have our disagreements from time to time.
    2024 The year of the general election...the time for change is coming 💡

  • four4mum
    four4mum Community member Posts: 7 Connected
    As I mentioned a moment ago, having read the comments on this thread, I feel that the way @BAGPUSS54 was treated, was seriously hateful and hurtful. I didn't realise that having a different opinion was abusive. That's a first. Being called names though, was abusive, hateful and very hurtful, so I'm  really not sure if asking questions or advice on here, will generate any help at all
  • cupcake88
    cupcake88 Posts: 1,273 Pioneering
    @four4mum please stick around it’s a really good forum this forum has really helped me . 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 53,330 Disability Gamechanger
    @four4mum what you have seen here is absolutely not the usual thing to happen here on the community. Although you often get some issues on all forums.

    If the original poster in question had stopped the personal attacks when asked kindly then other members would have had no need to comment. There really was also no need to start another thread highlighting the issues, if there were further problems, this could be been sorted on the original thrread.

    I hope you do decide to stay and have a look around and if you need some help i'm sure someone can give you some advice. In the meantime welcome to the forum.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • four4mum
    four4mum Community member Posts: 7 Connected
    Apologies, but I saw no personal attacks, just a difference of opinion. If that is disallowed, is it in the rules about commenting 
  • Lulu_1949
    Lulu_1949 Community member Posts: 236 Pioneering
    @four4mum you are allowed to comment on anything and you are also allowed to have a difference of opinion. That’s life! It’s so easy to agree to disagree and stay friendly, that’s my belief 
  • Cher_Alumni
    Cher_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,741 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi everyone,

    Following moderator review, this thread has been closed.

    To emphasise, diverse opinions are integral to our community being the vibrant space that it is, so thank you for sharing your experience with us @Bagpuss56 as I'm sure others reading will have been through similar and can relate to your frustrations.  

    However, discussion must remain within our online community guidelines  and where conversation turns to profanity, causes offence or is against the friendly ethos of the community, then the team must intervene and act as necessary.  

    I hope you continue to be a part of our community @four4mum and I'm sorry that this was your first interaction with what is otherwise a friendly, close-knit bunch of members.   Likewise, please all bear in mind the guidelines linked above and remember to respect others' views even if you don't necessarily agree with them.  Thank you.  
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