Shock at request for lcwra review diapite been on support gp esa

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charl1234
charl1234 Online Community Member Posts: 299 Empowering
in Universal Credit (UC)
Partner as far as we know was given a indefinite eas contribution based support group award, he claims alongside universal credit , he gets full pip , joint claim Im lcw and full pip , we have just been told he's up for lcwra assessment, he automatically qualified because of esa and presume that as he was in support group he would keep lcwra, apparently not🥵, I'm worried sick last time he had a assessment for esa around 2016 he actually had a suspected heart attack in the examination room , I don't honestly think he will cope with it, severe mental health and illnesses, I've asked for paper based assessment renewal for pip I suppose I'll be doing same for esa
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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    ESA severe conditions group wasn't introduced until September 2017 so if his last ESA review was 2016 then i wouldn't expect him to be in the group where you're not expected to be review again. See link. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/employment-and-support-allowance-and-universal-credit-changes-to-the-work-capability-assessment/employment-and-support-allowance-and-universal-credit-changes-to-the-work-capability-assessment-from-29-september-2017

    LCWRA is the same as ESA Support Group, when claiming both ESA and UC together you'll only receive one assessment for both benefits.

    I'm not aware of reviews starting back again and as far as i know they are still suspended. Has he received a letter on his journal telling him they are referring him for a review?

  • charl1234
    charl1234 Online Community Member Posts: 299 Empowering
    Not as yet just that he is due July and me March are we all still waiting then? It may have been 2017 then , I think it's strange that he has to do a lcwra thing if he's on esa support group indefinite if that is the case, there's no dates on letters he recieves, he's scared to ring them in case to highlight it!!
  • charl1234
    charl1234 Online Community Member Posts: 299 Empowering
    It was uc advisor told us about this , apparently it's due in July according to his records but if he's still getting esa support group will this happen??
  • charl1234
    charl1234 Online Community Member Posts: 299 Empowering
    All so confused sorry, scope advisor on phone said uc and esa are different benefits so work lcwra can take place xx
  • calcotti
    calcotti Online Community Member Posts: 10,001 Championing
    Could you clarify when the UC claim started and is he getting the LCWRA element.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    charl1980 said:
    All so confused sorry, scope advisor on phone said uc and esa are different benefits so work lcwra can take place xx

    Yes they are different benefits but Support Group and LCWRA are exactly the same.
    charl1980 said:
    It was uc advisor told us about this , apparently it's due in July according to his records but if he's still getting esa support group will this happen??

    Although you both maybe due a review this year it's very unlikely that this will happen because as i advised all reviews are still suspended. When they do start back there will be huge backlogs so it's unlikely there will be a review anytime soon.
  • charl1234
    charl1234 Online Community Member Posts: 299 Empowering
    Thanks little price of mind it may not be immediate at least! Can I ask could it be esa have requested the lcwra assessment then?
  • charl1234
    charl1234 Online Community Member Posts: 299 Empowering
    Thanks for rreplys appreciate your time xxx
  • calcotti
    calcotti Online Community Member Posts: 10,001 Championing
    edited February 2023
    charl1980 said:
    …, we have just been told he's up for lcwra assessment,
    When you said the above who did you mean had told you needed an LCWRA assessment. I read it as you meaning DWP but did you mean somebody else.
  • charl1234
    charl1234 Online Community Member Posts: 299 Empowering
    No dwp xx 
  • calcotti
    calcotti Online Community Member Posts: 10,001 Championing
    edited February 2023
    charl1980 said:
    No dwp xx 
    Could you confirm as I asked earlier whether he is currently get the LCWRA element of UC.
    charl1980 said:
    Thanks little price of mind it may not be immediate at least! Can I ask could it be esa have requested the lcwra assessment then?

  • charl1234
    charl1234 Online Community Member Posts: 299 Empowering
    Yes he gets lcwra and full pip I get lcw and full pip
  • calcotti
    calcotti Online Community Member Posts: 10,001 Championing
    edited February 2023
    So he is getting LCWRA correctly because he is in ESA Support Group. DWP can reassess and the result will apply to ESA and UC. Like poppy I am surprised that they are starting a review because I thought they were still suspended.
  • charl1234
    charl1234 Online Community Member Posts: 299 Empowering
    They have not  as yet but uc advisor said due July xx
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    charl1980 said:
    They have not  as yet but uc advisor said due July xx
    Were you advised that by a telephone advisor? If so they are call centre staff and most likely looked to see when your referral date is. However, as I advised reviews are suspended. 
  • charl1234
    charl1234 Online Community Member Posts: 299 Empowering
    Thanks poppy xx
  • calcotti
    calcotti Online Community Member Posts: 10,001 Championing
    charl1980 said:
    They have not  as yet but uc advisor said due July xx
    Said ‘due’ and ‘will be’ doing one now are different things. This is nothing to specifically do with UC. Even if he was only claiming ESA he would still have a review at some point. 
  • charl1234
    charl1234 Online Community Member Posts: 299 Empowering
    Sorry yes they are I have long covid and sometimes I struggle 
  • JBS2022
    JBS2022 Scope Member Posts: 2,074 Championing
    Reviews for UC and ESA are definately still suspended until spring- summer 2024 at the earliest, and with the still gigantic backlogs it's likely to be 2025 onwards. No way you'll be reviewed in July unless it's a Change of Circumstances.
  • charl1234
    charl1234 Online Community Member Posts: 299 Empowering
    Thanks love for reply

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