Would you accept having your bank account checked?
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Thanks very much
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vikingqueen said:If you have nothing to hide there is nothing to worry about.
Who in their right mind would think the dwp can be trusted with the power to arrest anyone?2 -
Hi. Found this on another thread.
Thoughts please.The document stated that much of the legislation used by the DWP’s counter-fraud officers is “now decades old”. It said the government would introduce measures to improve access to data and enforcement:
“Subject to parliamentary time, we will legislate to update their powers to boost access to data from third parties and carry out arrests and searches and seize evidence. This will enable them to act more quickly to identify, detect and disrupt fraud, particularly from organised criminal gangs and wider economic crime. We will also bring in a new civil financial penalty, so more fraudsters pay for their crimes.”
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@Tonawanda17 again, that’s the same as what we’ve been talking about here and we are over 10 pages into the thread.DWP can already access back accounts if they suspect fraud so nothing new there.4
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poppy123456 said:@Tonawanda17 again, that’s the same as what we’ve been talking about here and we are over 10 pages into the thread.DWP can already access back accounts if they suspect fraud so nothing new there.
I wouldn't be happy with the dwp having extra powers such as this.
They are well known to regularly abuse the powers they already have.
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woodbine said:honestjon said:vikingqueen said:If you have nothing to hide there is nothing to worry about.
Who in their right mind would think the dwp can be trusted with the power to arrest anyone?
The dwp already have their methods to identify which accounts to investigate.
The concern I have is what powers the dwp have, once these accounts are identified as suspicious,and how open to abuse the new powers may give the dwp to the detriment of people who are unwell.2 -
Hi. Are there any government publications stating what powers they are getting?0
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honestjon said:poppy123456 said:@Tonawanda17 again, that’s the same as what we’ve been talking about here and we are over 10 pages into the thread.DWP can already access back accounts if they suspect fraud so nothing new there.2
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Tonawanda17 said:Hi. Are there any government publications stating what powers they are getting?2
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If this goes ahead do we think someone will challenge it?0
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No idea, sorry.
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2oldcodgers
It doesn't help the rest of us when you tell the world you receive disability benefits you don't need
Judging others from a place of safety or position of authority is all too easy
I use the Mobility money to lease a car. But have little or no extra costs when it comes to the Care element. You just get paid it whether you need it or not.
This is in my opinion the downfall of PIP. Under DLA you could identify which element you were making a claim for, this does not seem to be the case with PIP.
When I claimed DLA many years ago I only opted for the Mobility part as I did have extra costs for that element.
Maybe the DWP could change the current system so that claimants have the option on what to claim for.
And as for claiming and not needing the money, may I remind you that two Prime Ministers were in receipt of DLA/PIP on behalf of their respective children/grandchildren. Is it possible that they were so impoverished that they needed the extra money?
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You could never choose which part of DLA you wanted to claim, the same as PiP. They would look at the whole claim and not just part of it. I don’t know who told you that you could do otherwise but it’s not correct.2
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honestjon said:poppy123456 said:@Tonawanda17 again, that’s the same as what we’ve been talking about here and we are over 10 pages into the thread.DWP can already access back accounts if they suspect fraud so nothing new there.
I wouldn't be happy with the dwp having extra powers such as this.
They are well known to regularly abuse the powers they already have.
IF it did ever happen - I would be more concerned about the contractors paid vast sums to carry out the arrests - because I cannot ever see DWP employees being directly involved .
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Wibbles said:honestjon said:poppy123456 said:@Tonawanda17 again, that’s the same as what we’ve been talking about here and we are over 10 pages into the thread.DWP can already access back accounts if they suspect fraud so nothing new there.
I wouldn't be happy with the dwp having extra powers such as this.
They are well known to regularly abuse the powers they already have.
IF it did ever happen - I would be more concerned about the contractors paid vast sums to carry out the arrests - because I cannot ever see DWP employees being directly involved .
It doesn't matter if they are employed directly or sub contracted to arrest you.
The dwp will be the ones pulling the strings1 -
woodbine said:Once a year I have are to provide an up to date bank statement all they are checking is if my ESA that went from IR to CB can go back to IR, what's the issue with that ? they also request a copy of my private pension even though it only goes up by pennies each year. I have nothing to hide and no problem, if they want to want this I still would have no problem they could should they desire check my bank account every day, why ? because I have NOTHING to hide.
I really do think that threads like this are not what scope is about, they can and do worry people without need, they are often scaremongering of the worst sort.
Why? I pay tax on 5 private pensions on a monthly basis. Tax deductions can vary by up to 25p either way each month - that's just the system.
So I send monthly bank statements to show the movement of each pension.
I didn't believe them when they said that I had to report any change in net income of 1p or more/less!!0 -
Wibbles said:honestjon said:poppy123456 said:@Tonawanda17 again, that’s the same as what we’ve been talking about here and we are over 10 pages into the thread.DWP can already access back accounts if they suspect fraud so nothing new there.
I wouldn't be happy with the dwp having extra powers such as this.
They are well known to regularly abuse the powers they already have.
IF it did ever happen - I would be more concerned about the contractors paid vast sums to carry out the arrests - because I cannot ever see DWP employees being directly involved .
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poppy123456 said:You could never choose which part of DLA you wanted to claim, the same as PiP. They would look at the whole claim and not just part of it. I don’t know who told you that you could do otherwise but it’s not correct.
As with the second form it was split into two parts Care and Mobility.
On the form you were asked if you wanted to claim one or both.
If it was mobility then you only completed that section of it leaving the care side completely blank. You would then be assessed for what you claimed for.
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2oldcodgers said:woodbine said:Once a year I have are to provide an up to date bank statement all they are checking is if my ESA that went from IR to CB can go back to IR, what's the issue with that ? they also request a copy of my private pension even though it only goes up by pennies each year. I have nothing to hide and no problem, if they want to want this I still would have no problem they could should they desire check my bank account every day, why ? because I have NOTHING to hide.
I really do think that threads like this are not what scope is about, they can and do worry people without need, they are often scaremongering of the worst sort.
Why? I pay tax on 5 private pensions on a monthly basis. Tax deductions can vary by up to 25p either way each month - that's just the system.
So I send monthly bank statements to show the movement of each pension.
I didn't believe them when they said that I had to report any change in net income of 1p or more/less!!
What a strange coincidence, there was another member here last year that also said exactly the same. He hasn't been active for quite sometime now @racyguy
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