Job coaches for mentally ill in hospital settings - BBC

Liz Kendall has demonstrated again and again that she has no detailed knowledge of disability and the relevant benefits for it. Ignorance of this level is dangerous

It's a long way off - if it ever gets passed at all. Don't worry about it now, I am sure people with lived experience of MH and basically anyone with common sense will seek to inform her of what a terrible idea this is. As you say Catherine, imagine the carnage that would occur!

I've been down a rabbit hole this morning, searching for part time job with no pressure from home.they just don't exist. I'm going to buy a laptop ready incase. I kind of feel like maybe this scare mongering is to see how many they can scare back to work ! I just don't know how I will do it. It's not fair that she's put pressure on to so many mh people. As for going into hospital when people at lowest there must be a law against this!!

It's opening up doors for employers to also do this. My last two employers didn't believe mh was a disability and wouldn't make adjustments!!!

And what if one of the contributing factors leading to being on a ward is the benefits system? How does that work? Feeling there is no escape route could be catostrophic.

You cannot get someone who is seriously mentally ill into a job, if he or she has a breakdown in the workplace not only could it damage them it could damage the people around the person in question.

I wonder if the thought has occurred to her that many seriously mentally ill people aren't 'safe' to do jobs?

Also, what kind of prospective employer will, with open arms, positively embrace a candidate with serious mental health challenges, simply because that one has been "coached" and had a tailored CV provided?

There are many people in these units who are not only emotionally extremely unstable but have high degrees of paranoia towards anyone,be it staff,those in authority(doctors/government/DWP etc) or other patients. To be coerced to engage in this state could end very badly,for all and create new levels of trauma for patients.It would have to be ONLY on a non pressured ,voluntary basis, if at all.

I'm no expert or anything, but I'm pretty sure this ridiculous proposal could have some serious legal repercussions for the DWP.

Anyone who has spent time in hospital knows how strict they are with regards to visitation. Most times it's only family members who are allowed, and this never happened with me but if it's someone you don't know, don't you have to give some kind of consent?

I imagine very few hospitals would stand for some work coach just waltzing in and demanding access to patients. And surely this would be interfering in the doctor patient relationship, and also infringing on patient's privacy?

I have no experience of being sectioned, but I imagine the visitation rules in those hospitals are even stricter? Surely they don't just let strangers in to see patients?

This clearly hasn't been thought through properly and could potentially have disastrous consequences.

Honestly if i God forbid made another suicide attempt and got visited by some idiot from a jobcentre to discuss writing my CV, I would tell them, and pardon my french, to go f**k themselves.

She must be triggering so many people. It's so wrong

Has she said anything about their plans for people with MH issues who have never been sectioned? This whole "some people will lose their benefits" quote has me really worried.