Job coaches for mentally ill in hospital settings - BBC

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  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,752 Championing

    We should all email goverment saying this is damaging our mental health more and how many more people pushed to the edge we need to fight back have our voices heard if hundreds of us emailed they'd have to hear us instead they love us divided let's do it I

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,752 Championing

    It is exhausting sick thing is they want this !! They know the psychology effect this having we are being bullied degraded called all kinds of names worklessness all manner oh sick note Britain that took me down everyday do something little could be making cup of tea brushing your hair small steps make sure your eating and drinking these are the things I tend to do I don't eat trapped for hours in my head be hours before have any water it's almost like a punishment house mess I don't get changed terrified in my bed give yourself time and work up to sitting in front room it's so hard to come out of the pure fear mode god when I was younger I was fearless lived my life not worrying I need to find this person we got this no choice under this cruel inhumane system don't let them beat us down want to swear but can't x

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,897 Championing

    😂

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,752 Championing

    I understand we have been bullied beaten for years I noticed it more with sunak and everyday from then it's hard to get up as nightcity said wa are here for you there's a lady called Ellen clifford to court over wca change so and when labour mention changes we will have someone fighting our corner no one would understand if they never suffered take one-day at a time one hour at a time living on fight and flight is exhausting go with your body sleep if you need to sleep don't beat yourself up sometimes when we feel threatened we shut down my go to is baths can have 4 a day when stressed i really hope this lifts and you can get some peace x

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,752 Championing

    Yes she's amazing oh no I feel you i do like a bath I'm ok thanks hope you have a restful evening x

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,752 Championing

    So if labour propose changes to wca will it have to go through lords I don't understand it all

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,752 Championing

    I would say is there anything we can do but I know answer to that I was always worried about losing lwcra will lose everything if that happened like millions of us

  • durhamjaide2001
    durhamjaide2001 Scope Member Posts: 13,809 Championing

    We aren't working on anything in particular at the moment but you need to become a member of Scope which is run by @Giovanni_Scope

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,752 Championing

    I'd tell you I'd like to give a million whips quiet easy s

  • bookrabbit
    bookrabbit Online Community Member Posts: 221 Empowering

    Isn't it great? When you finally win the lottery and actually get a mental health bed you can have a job coach come and talk about your delusions about becoming an astronaut:) They can't get enough qualified mental health professionals so this is their way of improving staffing levels. Ingenious!!

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,752 Championing

    I'd say I'm Ted bundy in the exorcist voice last seen running for the hills !

  • apple85
    apple85 Online Community Member Posts: 892 Championing

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1964497/liz-kendall-prisoners-back-to-work?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

    Not sure it would work but it’s much more creative than anything Kendall’s come up with and sounds less hazardous to the nations mental health

    and Honestly I’m not sure if employers would see disabled or ex prisoners as less desirable to hire (guess it would depend on the crime)

  • egister
    egister Posts: 967 Pioneering

    In my opinion, the decision to save money on the disabled and pensioners in particular was made a long time ago; the old plan is simply being carried out and it doesn’t matter which clowns pretend to fight each other for seats in parliament.

  • Jimm_Alumni
    Jimm_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,717 Championing
    edited October 2024

    I do think both groups of people need the stigma around hiring them reduced. I've been reading statistics recently regarding how much of the prison population is estimated to be neurodivergent in some way. One review estimated that up to potentially half of the prison population could be neurodivergent in some way. Whether Autism, ADHD, dyslexia, dyscalculia, some form of learning difficulty.

    I do think this says something about how a lot of these people, if given proper support, may never have fallen into the prison system at all.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,752 Championing

    IUsed to be youth worker and alot of this is true have my own experiences as well

  • Jimm_Alumni
    Jimm_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,717 Championing
    edited October 2024

    I didn't mean it in that way, I apologise if that is how my words got it across.

    I myself am someone who went undiagnosed and unsupported through until 29. I didn't end up in the criminal justice system. I did end up doing far less well academically, professionally, financially and mentally than I would have done with diagnosis and support.

    My ADHD actually put me in very poor financial situations, if I was a different person I can see how being in such dire situation can lead to crime. Being someone who is neurodivergent and unsupported/nonadjusted in a neurotypical world can often lead to being in a worse environment such as poverty. Not because of my neurodiversity itself, but because I was missed by the support system that is supposed to be in place. I was made to fit into a neurotypical mold, and the results of that weren't good.

    Think I'm rambling a little. I was not trying to say that an unsupported neurodivergent person is likely to end up in prison, but many of the neurodivergent people in prison are there because they were undiagnosed or unsupported.

    The statistics I found in a gov.uk statement which linked this 2021 review as evidence

    Neurodiversity in the criminal justice system: A review of evidence (justiceinspectorates.gov.uk)

  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Online Community Member Posts: 16,820 Championing

    I'd just like to comment after reading (most of) the link @Jimm_Scope provided. First under the 'umbrella' of neurodivergence, which was acknowledged as a neurodevelopmental order, were then clumped in prisoners (& others in the criminal justice system) who had an aquired or traumatic brain injury.

    I hope I don't cause any offence to members who are on the autistic spectrum, but would you think an aquired or traumatic brain injury, which can of course come with it's own problems, is anything to do with what you consider being 'neurodivergent,' as they sound completely different to me?

    I'd argue that the 'statistics' in this report are a mishmash of 'estimates' of this & that, & no apparent consistency in assessing a prisoner's mental health always accurately, if at all, was shown.

    Looking at both sides of things, & this is only about one (category D/lowest security) prison, my son's wife has just told me that about half their prisoners do indeed need additional support for their mental health. They do get some info about this, but it doesn't contain a medical opinion & doesn't differentiate between neurodiversity or any other problems.

    I do of course agree with the recommendations in this report, but I'd say otherwise there was often a paucity of 'evidence' throughout it.

  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Online Community Member Posts: 16,820 Championing

    Sorry, that should of course read acquired in my comment above.