Do you believe in ghosts ?

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  • Dragonfly79
    Dragonfly79 Online Community Member Posts: 29 Contributor

    Well,it looks like a win for the believers in a big and mysterious universe,and a loss for the James Rhandi fans…:=)))

  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,116 Pioneering

    Mushishi
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0807832/
    IMDb RATING 8.5/10 15k

    Mushi Master Ginko travels from place to place investigating occurrences that could be tied to supernatural creatures called Mushi.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 7,282 Championing
    edited December 2024

    When I was a child we lived in high rise flats and the person before us ended thier life in the flat I was about 4 years old and every morning if felt like people jumping on my bed whispering (removed as personal details) and laughing I used to scream and I seen a shadows the scariest one was a shadow in the corner of my room all hunched up always hearing whispers in that flat when I got older I did actually think i was psychic and some studies have shown people with autism can have more that 6 senses very intuned

  • Holly_Scope
    Holly_Scope Posts: 3,158 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Removed personal details from post - Holly.

  • michael57
    michael57 Online Community Member Posts: 1,614 Championing
  • Holly_Scope
    Holly_Scope Posts: 3,158 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Hi @michael57, no lol it is not. 😂

  • michael57
    michael57 Online Community Member Posts: 1,614 Championing

    haha i am 99% sure i can read my dawnies mind the answer is always no 😈

  • FeistyPigeon
    FeistyPigeon Online Community Member Posts: 327 Empowering

    Really Agnia there really aren't evil spirits. Despite what I wrote earlier, I don't know what I experienced, whether it was a ghost, or me tuning into something bad that had happened in the building in the past, or whether it was just steps creaking behind me, given that it was full of old timbers and your imagination can run wild when you're left alone and it's dark outside. But even if it were a ghost, I came away completely unharmed. And it's very rare to hear of anyone who's actually been injured by what they think is a ghost.

    I take from what you say that you think evil spirits "make" people do bad things. Quite honestly we have to own up to our own responsibilities, we cause the problems, not celestial entities. Humans have an enormous capacity for imagination and intelligence, and they can use it to do good, with compassion and kindness, or they can use it to do wicked "evil" things. You don't need to imagine that spirits are responsible for this, that they direct the behaviour of humans, humans choose to do good and bad things all by themselves. If you're basing your ideas from the Bible, refer to Genesis, where it says humans were given, above all the animals, and above the angels, the power of choice. No one else, no evil spirit, is responsible. We are not empty vessels on which evil spirits act. Believing there are gives you a feeling of powerlessness, but the power to change ourselves lies in our own hands, not in the spirit world.

  • Razr
    Razr Online Community Member Posts: 206 Empowering

    Apart from Pets why would other species of ghosts if there are any come and see us as humans anyway, just because we have not seen them does not mean there are not any, in my opinion, certain tribes, etc do communicate with other species' spirits as far as we know

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,692 Championing

    Demons/Ghosts/Devils etc do not exist - they are a figment of some peoples imagination…

    There are scientific explanations for all of these false beliefs

  • Razr
    Razr Online Community Member Posts: 206 Empowering
    edited December 2024

    And so is religion

    however, it has gotten the human species so far and now maybe it is time the species evolves with science, not forgetting our past so we won't do the same thing again

    One way ticket who is up for it?

    on a scale of 1 2 5 what r U?

  • FeistyPigeon
    FeistyPigeon Online Community Member Posts: 327 Empowering

    Hi Agnia,

    I agree this is too big a topic to discuss in depth here, but in general terms I respectfully have to disagree with you. There is absolutely no scientific evidence for demonic possession, the devil and so forth. I'm afraid it's harking back to the good old days of mythology and superstition. And yes of course everyone has the right to their own opinions, but the real problems start when these opinions are broadcast as "facts". This was after all how so many poor old women and their cats were burnt at the stake and drowned in duck ponds. And this was the basis for the thousands executed during the Inquisition. Beliefs that cannot be easily disproved can become incredibly dangerous, especially for the most vulnerable in society who would prove easy scapegoats for the woes of others.

    As regards demonic possession, I would say this has been disproved time and time again by medical advances, which would have proved ineffective if your claims were true. As for the existence of the "devil", actually the meaning of the devil / "satan" has changed dramatically over hundreds of generations, from it's initial meaning in the Old Testament. The satan used to mean any angel which was sent by God to test the faith of Jewish people. As such it was a label, "a satan", not a specific demon, and as an angel it was fulfilling the work of God. (I'm not speaking as a fundamentalist Christian, just an interested party) If you look at the early books of the old Testament, eg Numbers or Job, you will see this was the meaning of Satan.

    It only takes on the meaning we know today many centuries later, for example by the Essenes, who were a radical sect based around the Red Sea, ostacised by the orthodox Jews, who used it to good effect to bolster their own self-belief (normal Jews were supposed to be in league with Satan). This meaning was taken up by the early Christians, who were mostly Jews to start with and ostracised from synagogues by their contemporaries. Jews who weren't Christian were labelled in league with the devil. And again, when Christianity spread through the Roman empire, the remaining pagans, including the Roman power base, became the target for being under Satan's power, when being a Christian could mean a death sentence in the arena.

    In actuality there is not such thing as Satan, anymore than demonic possession. The horned devil we associate with Satan was a fabrication by the Romans to destroy the Celtic religion, they believed in a horned god who was the protector of the forests and believed to look rather like a stag, and aligning him with the devil was a good way to dissuade the local population.

    We should try to base our beliefs in scientific fact, not revert to superstition and their associated dangers.

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 6,234 Championing
    edited December 2024

    The absence of current scientific evidence for demonic possession doesn't entirely exclude the possibility that such a thing exists.

    There will always be things that science cannot explain and that we cannot understand.

    At one time in the past, those that advocated the germ theory were ridiculed. Florence Nightingale was laughed at for advocating hygiene practices in Hospitals.

    Science at that time could not prove the hypothesis, but they were proven right in the end.

  • Sandy_123
    Sandy_123 Scope Member Posts: 63,123 Championing

    @agnia My tag is not working, yes I agree with you, everyone is entitled to their beliefs, even if some disagree, it doesn't mean that one is right or one is wrong.

  • vikingqueen
    vikingqueen Scope Member Posts: 1,837 Championing

    The mind is a very powerful thing..

  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,116 Pioneering
    It's funny that thanks to NATO officers Satan actually appeared. I wonder who gave the missile this name.
    
    satan2.jpg
  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 990 Championing

    I am open minded.

    I have two things to add though.

    One is when I was looking after my sisters cat, it would often stare at the walls, and move its head as if it was following something, it might have been a really tiny fly or something I couldnt see, but it was odd behaviour, and also it acted scared a lot.

    On one occasion I woke up and seen some small black masses approach me, which is kind of scary the way I describe it, but after a second or so they backed off and never to be seen again.

  • FeistyPigeon
    FeistyPigeon Online Community Member Posts: 327 Empowering

    Yes you're right Kimmy, I should have said "no scientific evidence to show the existence of demons" etc rather than a flat-out denial. I'm more concerned about how this sort of belief could sway public opinion, as per the witch-hunting trials mentioned. We need to think very carefully before making unproven claims. Just because they're are written about in religious texts such as the Bible, or because people think they've seen something, doesn't make them real…