Speculation about government changes for PIP..

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  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,457 Championing

    What about autism, ? I got high rate for that and standard for mobility. My mobility has worsend since .I have copd. But haven't put it in again as I was given 10 years at the end of 22.

  • Setsuka
    Setsuka Community Member Posts: 3 Listener

    There’s no mentions of specific conditions, just vague stigmatisation of mental health claimants like we saw with Sunak and the Tories.

    Honestly, the writers of these articles are just guessing like we are. I’m trying not to worry as well.

  • KG100
    KG100 Community Member Posts: 306 Empowering
    edited January 2025

    The same thing happened to some people I knew who were on indefinite awards. When they changed it to PIP they changed them to a lesser time frames.

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community Member Posts: 64,375 Championing
  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,457 Championing

    Oh ok, thanks Poppy. Don't they know what they are doing to us. Reeves failure. They could of done good when they came in, instead of these harebrain ideas. Spending money abroad. Mad climate things like solar. Its not that sunny in the uk. Larry the cat could run the government better

  • Kaliwax
    Kaliwax Community Member Posts: 101 Empowering

    I feel physically sick now.

    I know ive just got my PIP renewed for 6 years till 2030, but still its extremely worrying what this government has got planned for us.

    It will end in travesty, im absolutely terrified. This is scary stuff.

  • Ironside1990
    Ironside1990 Community Member Posts: 395 Pioneering

    Yes. I claim for cerebral palsy, which is a neurological condition.

  • Kaliwax
    Kaliwax Community Member Posts: 101 Empowering
    edited January 2025

    Yes.

    Although I think which would happen is those who get PIP for any Mental Health Issue, to get vouchers weekly. so they can get private help, than rather wait on the NHS for things like therapy. Therapy on NHS only gets you a certain amount, whereas on Private you can get as many as you want, as long as you pay and I presume this could happen with vouchers

  • Zipz
    Zipz Community Member Posts: 4,345 Championing
    edited January 2025
  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Community Member Posts: 410 Pioneering

    Please remember that these media reports are all speculation at the moment. The government have not yet said what's coming down the line and by them not saying what the changes are it is causing people anxiety. Granted I think there's going to be changes but we'll just have to wait until the Spring to find out.

  • FeistyPigeon
    FeistyPigeon Community Member Posts: 347 Empowering

    Sadly this isn't just being reported in the Torygraph, but in pubs like the Big Issue + Disability Rights UK website. They're planning £3 billion cuts to welfare, mostly by slashing PIP payments and making it even harder to qualify + "reforming" the capability of work assessment as per Tory proposals, although as regards the latter Labour are saying they won't be as harsh as Stride's proposals (but no details yet).

    Big Issue link here:

    https://www.bigissue.com/news/social-justice/dwp-changes-2025-benefit-reforms-universal-credit/

    I was listening to Any Questions R4 today, they say the main reason for doing this is Trump coming into power + his plans to slap import duties on UK exports. I'd like to know why the disabled, some of the most vulnerable in society, must pay for costs to the economy. Why not a wealth tax on the super rich? They reckon a 2% tax on those with assets over 10 million would alone raise £24 billion.

    https://taxjustice.uk/campaign/taxing-wealth/

    Not only that, Labour's cuts will be self-defeating. They'll hit the disabled hard and make it even harder for us to have the energy + health to be able to work - if you spend you days shivering at home with little food and tattered clothes, what chance do you have? But they think if they make it really really intolerable for us, we'll all troop willingly back into employment + they can put our little bit of support back into their golden-throned Treasury.

    The whole thing makes me sick…

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,457 Championing

    Same As me couldn't someone who knows about these things write to Echr because what they are doing to us is cruel and inhumane.

  • ladyluck
    ladyluck Community Member Posts: 83 Empowering

    Only just got over all the worrying last year, and now this. We will have to wait until March before we see what’s happening. I’m going to try and stay calm. This government had made such shocking changes so I’ve no idea what they will do next. Who would have thought our elderly could be targeted like they have? All I do know is any changes to our awards will be seriously contested, especially after they have been so hard fought. If Reeves wants less of us to be ill, she has no idea how to go about this, all she will do is create more anxiety and depression. One thing is for sure, we are all together supporting one another. So let’s just wait and see. Reeves and Starmer will hopefully be removed before anything they decide to do can come into play. Stay strong everyone. Scope is here to help and support us all.

  • worried33
    worried33 Community Member Posts: 1,085 Championing

    That is the likely outcome, however it is the worst outcome.
    What you described "reducing the case load", will mean removing support completely from people. Reducing the money is actually the less cruel way of doing things, as everyone is then still getting support, and the hit is spread across everyone.
    I remember when ESA was introduced, there was disabled people saying it was good, and the "proper" people were not kicked off it, I feel we about to get the same when we have people coming out saying reducing the caseload is ok and the amount of money is more important.

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,457 Championing

    I read that they are sending £500 million abroad for farming projects. I really don't understand their logic, spending millions abroad again for net zero while letting our pensioners freeze. They seem to love throwing money to other countries while letting the vunerable suffer. I read they may take pensioners free prescriptions. Surely there must be something to stop this madness.

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,457 Championing

    What about emailing or writing to starmer saying how it will effect us, outlining our disability. How hard it is to get pip anyway

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,457 Championing

    I'm scared honestly, I'm struggling physically and mentally. They are making it worse mentally. I wish I could win the lottery and be off benefits. Work wise I don't know what I could physically do. I have fatigue as well as my other things and need to sleep in the day.

  • Setsuka
    Setsuka Community Member Posts: 3 Listener

    I wish they’d just tell us and end the speculation. Today’s articles are less PIP specific and more “£1.3 billion in cuts to welfare” so it’s not just targeting PIP.