Official thread: ‘Get Britain Working’ White Paper released Tuesday 26th November

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  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 1,375 Championing

    Because thanks to reeves autumn budget ,the economy isn't growing. So she's either putting up taxes again or cutting costs. She's blaming the fictional black hole. If they stop funding wasteful projects like milliband daft ideas. Paying train drivers who on huge wage as it is. We wouldn't be in this mess.

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 1,037 Championing

    I think this only confirms everything else we've already read.Its just very good use of language in a very political and flowery way.To be forewarned is to be forearmed isn't that what they say?.It's horrendous

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Online Community Member Posts: 311 Championing

    The website The Canary has done an analysis that sections of the MSM have been targeting those who are out of work due to ill mental health, I should add that the Canary is to the Left politically and makes no bones about it but I'm more interested in the subject matter of the article.

    It's not just about depression and anxiety, it's a wholesale downplaying of mental illness within certain sections of the Media and Political parties including sections of Labour, Reform and the Tories which not only places the individual with a mental illness in harms way but could potentially place the wider public in danger.

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 1,037 Championing

    Gmtv are going to be discussing disability benefits this morning

  • judie
    judie Online Community Member Posts: 339 Empowering

    His initials always remind me of stomach problems!

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 1,375 Championing

    You don't know me , so don't you dare say that. I know the environment needs attending I support doing it .in a practical way for this country. We don't get a lot of sun, so solar panels across farm land not helping. Planting trees would help. So get off your high horse. We have worries about pip cuts and I just mentioned where I thought it could be saved.

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 1,375 Championing

    I have them on my rented property, but don't see what savings if any as it all goes to the housing association

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 1,375 Championing

    Apologies accepted

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 1,037 Championing

    Well I watched the Chief Secretary to the Treasurey ( I think his name was Darren Jones) just speak.Basically again it only confirms what they are going to do ( reading between the lines).If you read snippets from everywhere Rachel Reeves seems to have taken ideas from the Conservatives,New Zealand,just about everywhere!.They are extremely clever in that I think they may even word it in their green paper that working may be 'Voluntary' amongst vulnerable groups so as to seem they have 'listened' and taken on board the thoughts and feelings of the countries community affected by mental health ( which it seems they are targeting or trying to reach back into work).I think there will be some kind monetary sanction by not complying to 'commitments' as already they have left that door open on u.c system.But they will word it as 'Voluntary".The use of the mental health staff that they mentioned to 'help support' is a drive to save money forcing people too ill into work.I think it appears they will change the pip system definitely and that seems it's going down the physical disability met route as aposed to mental health.Obviouisly this is just what I think and I could be completely wrong

  • mangomungo
    mangomungo Online Community Member Posts: 180 Empowering

    I think this is what’s missing - those that can and want to of course should be supported if they need accommodations etc, that’s fine. It’s such a worry to some of us here like me that want to - but know that they unfortunately can’t (from past experiences) by the way it’s nice to see you back again :)

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 1,037 Championing

    @Nightcity him saying those who can and want to work is him giving a typical political answer.Suzanna Reed saw right through him fortunately.The government don't see that out of the £3 Billion cuts they will make in Benefits cuts the percentage in disabled people who can and want to work will be high surely?.Or they would have stepped forward.It will.be interesting actually if anyone on here who us disabled and would like to get back into work has an opinion on this?

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,427 Championing

    Let us know what you they say pls I cannot watch

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,427 Championing

    Hhhhhhhhhh ! You don't know how much we miss you

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,427 Championing

    I hope your right in what way do you think it's conspiracy theory thread ?

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,427 Championing

    But doesn't all this go against The Equality Act ?

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 4,344 Championing

    @Jane315STARX I missed the programme. How are changes to PIP going to hit the physically disabled rather than mentally disabled? Thanks.

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 1,037 Championing

    He didn't say it was very brief.Although all the reading I've done lately I caught something yesterday on the Internet.They ( Government) have thought of everything into incorporating how people with physical and some mental health disabilities can work from home.So it opens up opportunities for them even if they say have incontinence or agoraphobia or are a carer and are based at home.I think they consulted a broad range of people to discuss the impact of how their disabilities hinder them from working and have used data they already have which will enable them to now implement them to employ 80% ( this is what they are saying)

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 8,521 Championing

    Jane was posting her opinion about what she thinks will happen.

    It's worth posting yet again that everything is all opinion and speculation, until Labour actually publish their plans in the Spring.

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 1,037 Championing

    Yes it is only my opinion.I

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 1,037 Championing

    Nobody actually knows until it happens just like with u.c when they decided to bring that forward.We will find out soon

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