Official thread: ‘Get Britain Working’ White Paper released Tuesday 26th November

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  • Freedom2Waffle
    Freedom2Waffle Online Community Member Posts: 4 Listener
    edited January 16

    @mangomungo The only way they could truly understand is if they have experienced the pain and disrespect having either a disability or an invisible disability or personally know someone they see often to know what they go through the challenges there backed up against... whilst on the subject of politics, we hope we never ever have an English version of Trump

    Yes thankfully we have scope for up to date guidance and advice. But roll on spring/summer when we all finally no what to expect. Rather than us getting in a mess abour all of the "what ifs"! Ti mess about with our head

  • mangomungo
    mangomungo Online Community Member Posts: 175 Empowering
    edited January 16

    I think it would be a good idea for politicians to have to live off of benefits for a week and see how they get on, it’s true though they don’t realise sat up in their million pound houses how it feels. But at least we have each other here and we’re not alone

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 905 Championing

    Because thanks to reeves autumn budget ,the economy isn't growing. So she's either putting up taxes again or cutting costs. She's blaming the fictional black hole. If they stop funding wasteful projects like milliband daft ideas. Paying train drivers who on huge wage as it is. We wouldn't be in this mess.

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 704 Empowering

    I think this only confirms everything else we've already read.Its just very good use of language in a very political and flowery way.To be forewarned is to be forearmed isn't that what they say?.It's horrendous

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Online Community Member Posts: 192 Pioneering

    The website The Canary has done an analysis that sections of the MSM have been targeting those who are out of work due to ill mental health, I should add that the Canary is to the Left politically and makes no bones about it but I'm more interested in the subject matter of the article.

    It's not just about depression and anxiety, it's a wholesale downplaying of mental illness within certain sections of the Media and Political parties including sections of Labour, Reform and the Tories which not only places the individual with a mental illness in harms way but could potentially place the wider public in danger.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 949 Championing

    Do you not agree with us transitioning to a green economy? If I may say so, labelling people sounds very Trumpian.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 949 Championing

    There is more than a whiff of conspiracy theory emanating from this thread.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 949 Championing

    I apologise if I was out of order, I could have expressed myself better, on reflection.

    In future I shall try to offer a counter narrative in a more constructive manner.

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 704 Empowering

    Gmtv are going to be discussing disability benefits this morning

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 949 Championing

    I don't watch much telly, but unfortunately, the little I have viewed, it tends to paint an unsympathetic picture about social security.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 949 Championing

    Thanks for the welcome. This sort of site is new to me, so I imagine the novelty will wear off.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 949 Championing

    A certain follicly challenged gentleman, a chap with a double barrel; he was knighted over all this!

  • judie
    judie Online Community Member Posts: 301 Empowering

    His initials always remind me of stomach problems!

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 949 Championing
  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 905 Championing

    You don't know me , so don't you dare say that. I know the environment needs attending I support doing it .in a practical way for this country. We don't get a lot of sun, so solar panels across farm land not helping. Planting trees would help. So get off your high horse. We have worries about pip cuts and I just mentioned where I thought it could be saved.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 949 Championing

    Sorry I have offended you. It was not my intention .

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 905 Championing

    I have them on my rented property, but don't see what savings if any as it all goes to the housing association

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 905 Championing

    Apologies accepted

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 704 Empowering

    Well I watched the Chief Secretary to the Treasurey ( I think his name was Darren Jones) just speak.Basically again it only confirms what they are going to do ( reading between the lines).If you read snippets from everywhere Rachel Reeves seems to have taken ideas from the Conservatives,New Zealand,just about everywhere!.They are extremely clever in that I think they may even word it in their green paper that working may be 'Voluntary' amongst vulnerable groups so as to seem they have 'listened' and taken on board the thoughts and feelings of the countries community affected by mental health ( which it seems they are targeting or trying to reach back into work).I think there will be some kind monetary sanction by not complying to 'commitments' as already they have left that door open on u.c system.But they will word it as 'Voluntary".The use of the mental health staff that they mentioned to 'help support' is a drive to save money forcing people too ill into work.I think it appears they will change the pip system definitely and that seems it's going down the physical disability met route as aposed to mental health.Obviouisly this is just what I think and I could be completely wrong

  • mangomungo
    mangomungo Online Community Member Posts: 175 Empowering

    I think this is what’s missing - those that can and want to of course should be supported if they need accommodations etc, that’s fine. It’s such a worry to some of us here like me that want to - but know that they unfortunately can’t (from past experiences) by the way it’s nice to see you back again :)

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