March 26th and Green Paper Mega Discussion (ITV leaks, etc)

MW123
MW123 Scope Member Posts: 947 Championing
edited March 11 in Current affairs

New plans to improve employment support brought forward ahead of wider reform package to fix broken welfare system. 

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-bolsters-employment-support-to-unlock-work-for-sick-and-disabled-people

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  • LIVEDANDLEARNED
    LIVEDANDLEARNED Online Community Member Posts: 128 Empowering

    Hi everyone,


    I haven’t been paying much attention to the news lately, but I caught a tiny bit of the end of a chat on GMB today where Susanna Reid was asking if PIP is being cut. It’s left me very anxious. Does anyone have any factual details? I’m barely coping on PIP as it is.

  • Ironside1990
    Ironside1990 Online Community Member Posts: 289 Empowering
    edited March 8

    Nothing is happening with PIP. The only thing that will be happening with PIP, is that it'll be uprated in April.


    We'll be getting paid as normal. Any changes to PIP will take years.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 731 Championing
    edited March 8

    Just alot of speculation and gossip. I certainly wouldn't get hot under the collar about the chatterings of daytime tv hosts.

  • LIVEDANDLEARNED
    LIVEDANDLEARNED Online Community Member Posts: 128 Empowering
    edited March 8

    I completely agree, I have a condition that will only get worse and I wish my award would reflect that.

  • Hopeless
    Hopeless Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 424 Empowering
    edited March 8

    I’ve actually put in an MR regarding my award length (have just had a review). I told them I was happy with the award itself but felt it should be longer as my condition is permanent. I’m not holding out much hope but thought I’d ask anyway!

  • whistles
    whistles Online Community Member Posts: 2,034 Championing
    edited March 8

    That's what I was getting and I lost the care part of it.

    They ignored my memory issues. It's one of the reasons I need the support receive,but next review I will have documents.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 731 Championing
    edited March 8

    Every time the board is tossed in the air, some 'pieces' go missing. Just a thought.

  • Debi1160
    Debi1160 Online Community Member Posts: 9 Connected
    edited March 8

    PIP is all over the news these days and how it's not fit for purpose. The government seem to consider that everyone on PIP does not work and therefore the only way to decrease PIP is to get disabled people into work.

    So, I am 53 and work full-time. I get standard daily living and enhanced mobility, but seeing as I am wheelchair bound then that's understandable, although at my review they stopped all my PIP. Obviously I wasn't taking that and went through the MR process (also rejected) and then proceeded to inform them 'see you at Tribunal'. A few weeks later I had a call from a DWP manager who told me they had reviewed my case and were awarding me what I now get.

    So my biggest question is, what are they planning to do to disabled people who already work? No-one seems to have an answer.

    What do you guys think?

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    edited March 8

    The reason why non one has an answer for you is because no one knows yet. Labour haven't made any announcements as yet so we are just as much in the dark as you are.

    I personally prefer to wait until official announcement are made, rather than make a speculations. They said it would be the Spring before the announce anything and even when they do, it will take years for any changes to come into force.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,042 Championing
    edited March 8

    Would that apply to what the lords saying cut money for disabilitie

  • Kimmy87
    Kimmy87 Online Community Member Posts: 3,915 Championing
    edited March 8

    The House of Lords have put forward an opinion, nothing more.

  • Danny123
    Danny123 Online Community Member Posts: 68 Connected
    edited March 8

    Do you think all changes would take a very long time to implement ? Not just pip but ESA and lcwra too ?

  • sben
    sben Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 76 Contributor
    edited March 8

    What is Green Paper and PIP?

  • sben
    sben Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 76 Contributor
    edited March 8

    Is Green Paper changing cash to vouchers?

  • sben
    sben Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 76 Contributor
    edited March 8

    Alternatives to a cash transfer system

    83. If DWP were to consider other ways of supporting people with disabilities and long-term health conditions apart from providing regular cash payments, it could continue to contribute to people’s extra costs through alternative models which could include:

    • Catalogue/ shop scheme: in this kind of scheme, there would be an approved list from which disabled people could choose items at reduced or no cost. This would likely work better for equipment and aids rather than for services.
    • Voucher scheme: in this kind of scheme, disabled people could receive vouchers to contribute towards specific costs. It could work for both equipment/aids and for services.
    • A receipt-based system: this would involve claimants buying aids, appliances, or services themselves, and then providing proof of their purchase to claim back a contribution towards the cost. This could work in a similar way to Access to Work, which provides grants for equipment, adaptations, and other costs to help disabled people to start and stay in work.
    • One-off grants: these could contribute towards specific, significant costs such as for home adaptations or expensive equipment. It could involve a person supplying medical evidence of their condition to demonstrate the need for equipment or adaptations.

    84. While these alternative models help people with the extra costs of their disability or health condition, other forms of support including health care, social services care provision and respite are also important to help people to realise their full potential and live independently. We would like to understand whether some people receiving PIP who have lower, or no extra costs, may have better outcomes from improved access to treatment and support than from a cash payment.

    85. We would also like to know whether there are specific groups of people who have a need of a greater level of support than they currently receive, and whether this support should be financial or take a different form, such as improved access to healthcare (such as mental health provision or physiotherapy) or enhanced local authority support (such as care packages, respite or home adaptations). We will further explore ways of improving people’s access to services in Chapter 4.

  • LIVEDANDLEARNED
    LIVEDANDLEARNED Online Community Member Posts: 128 Empowering
    edited March 8

    please tell me that’s the previous Goverment’s proposals and not the current?

  • Nightcity
    Nightcity Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,307 Championing
    edited March 8

    Reeves may wish to fast track things as she apparently said today, but reality is it won't happen and the wheels are falling off now. In fact not only is this going to take years but controversial policies if anything will slow it down significantly more as opposed to speeding up.

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