Labour doubles down on slashing billions from DWP's disability benefits bill
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Ah ok yes if they take substanial risk out be me out start with new claimants then us but hopefully they will be pushed back so all makes sense when they said esa was going to change over 2028 2029 before bringing forward so it will come to us 2028 maybe
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Every year they have to highlight certain people ie rwanda look at that big thing oh we got planes blah blah that didnt literally take off elderly single mums now disabled workers farmers the lot id say its laughable if it wasnt true i got great comfort from jeremy john kirsty speeches they want to scare us its actually vile like a toxic relationship being bullied and terrized no more no way
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apple, what a fascinating read, thank you very much! Angela Raynor is pretty terrifying really.
She served in Jeremy Corbyn's shadow cabinet including as a DWP minister then had a hissy fit when Keir Starmer tried to sack her. She now holds far too much power in that party.
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Got to say WhatThe, her workers' rights bill has been the best thing for ages, it has at least made a stab at rolling back decades of workers rights. You wouldn't have got that with many on the front bench of Labour. I suspect Starmer's intention is to keep her there to appease the left in his party + keep them quiet, rather in the role of Prescott. Although to be honest she's been more active than him, Prescott was just a loud voice to rally the troops, not much more.
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What brilliant ideas Catherine! I'm with you : ))))
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Not sure, maybe best to clog them up with SARS once they come out with the green paper? But the complaints about waiting and not knowing should go out now…
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Holly put up pertition to sign to send to mps i cant find it now habe a look for that and sign them holly said scope working on something
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That sounds brill!
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Hopefully loads of people sign i know they probley dont even look at them in debth but still something b
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we all need to start doing this
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Those rules changed in April 2017 so that's nothing new.
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I know we don’t agree on many things @WhatThe but think both of us feels like something is off just perhaps not how it’s off
I think you may be left wing in your political thinking whereas I’m more central (though I do have both significant left and right wing thought ‘sprinkles’ in certain topics - for better or worse I’m driven by a very blunt black/white idea of ‘fairness’ which gets me in trouble with both left and right wing ppl)
It would be interesting to be a fly on the wall at no 10 & 11 right now!
Posting the below link for you whatthe as you said you enjoyed the times article
Political journalists at the times newspapers are right wing/far right whereas Owen jones is very left wing yet their theories on this are in the same ‘book series’ (not sure I can go as far as saying they are on the same page)
just because you are academically clever doesn’t mean you are clever in all areas of life (for example I’ve meet a lot of ppl with the higher functioning levels of autism who’s iq is through the roof but have trouble navigating social aspects (I think that’s very common to differing degrees) - working in politics requires the skills to get your message across to thousands, to word things well (spin) and the ability to manipulate is a form of social skill…………..it is possible to flunk academically but thrive as an mp - I imagine being a human rights barrister is very much about facts and the black/white and in some way the skills required for being a barrister and a politician, though they look in similar areas of study are actually more like dawn and dusk from each other if you get my analogy)There’s still something about the ‘starmer is a puppet’ that still doesn’t full sense to me & I’m not sure of all the power player/puppet operators &masters as of yet. I do think that right now the Labour right has a firm grasp of the party - but I do wonder if something like major welfare cuts may be what triggers the Labour left to start trying to wrangle back some power in a major way - if starmer continues losing support the career politicians of the party will smell blood and we could have a full on internal civil war within the Labour Party (left vs right wing and prehaps also vs centralist)
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I say again - I think you would need to identify 100-200 Labour MPs to target with your efforts if you & others are really serious about this type of action
Some Labour MPs are just too right wing to turn
And ministers would be a huge win to get on side however as they are on the gov payroll they have to vote with the gov or lose their job and potentially the whip - identifying any of payroll who you think could be encouraged to rebel would be hugely difficult due to mp sense of self preservation
(not impossible but you’d need to research profiles and make a very solid plan of action)
I don’t know how serious the few members mentioning ‘taking a stand’ of sorts are but if it turns into a wider goal in the scope forum (if scope moderators are instructed to stop activism plans being discussed in detail on this forum - you may need to more locations online if that’s the case) then feel free to pm me and I’ll be happy to loan my research skills (I love a spreadsheet) but I don’t think talk has reached that serious a level yet (some of you may be waiting till the green paper is released before launching anything)
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I think Starmer as a puppet strikes a lot of chords Apple, the Labour right are very firmly in charge of the party, and I can well imagine Blair and his acolytes have a good hand in the proceedings too - one example being the replacement of their very popular ambassador for America with Mandelson, although he might find he's tied up there rather more than envisaged.
Incidentally right now reading Owen Jone's book "The Establishment" - it's an eye opener.
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I’ll also post this here:
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Hi apple, I couldn't find our last chat but will come back to this.. Thanks again for the reads.
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The losses quoted I think are related to people losing LCWRA entitlement, as the plans are likely to be to move people from LCWRA to LCW via WCA changes. I wont say any other comment due to the recent post by Scope.
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I wouldn't be able to survive if I lost £400 a month. I'd also loose the car and become completely housebound because of that.
Wouldn't be able to go to the job center then to visit the work coach. And then guess what? Because of that I'd get sanctioned, begin to starve, become even more suicidal…
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Im clueless as everyone can see i will follow anyone who has knowledge thats what i said need someone with knowledge to set out a plan well what would your ideas be what would you do i know your very clued up we have loads of people i wont name them but so many on here with wide knowledge lets put our heads togeather pls sitting back letting it happen is crazy
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Do the DWP have to do safeguarding on us as disabled people ie regarding Get Britain Working my doctor has wrote and dont like the term hes said im mentally unstable to work so could i have or all of us have a point if we state to them our conditions do not permit us to work and will lead to unhealthy pattens and behaviour if pushed to far or could we do safeguarding on ourselves and get doctor to sign im thinkinh of all means you cannot send seriously mentally ill who are triggered by society its a bad outcome for the person and maybe public
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