Being told to attend face to face at job centre or claim will be closed because of PIP back payment.
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I think as long as I didnt have to do a new WCA I would consider it. My situation is a bit awkrawd, PIP and nsESA is not enough for me, but it would take a while I guess for my balance to get low enough to, however all 3 combined (at least with TP) would eventually take me above the 6k limit. My rent is pretty high as I privately rent, its pretty much aligned with my new PIP payment amount. So basically my nsESA would be for all other bills.
My council recently did a council tax consultation, and they are including PIP daily living in support from April 2025.
Also looks like HC2 certificates still exist, I used to use these before I started getting income based ESA top up.
I think you are right they would ask for new statements when reopening it as they will want to know how the savings went down, but I could provide all those in one go when opening the new claim and then that should be it.0 -
I was on the old CB ESA before migrating to UC, they then automatically migrated that to nsESA. I had to agree to commitments over a phone call.
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I just can’t get my head around it all - confuses me no end
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I dont advise following the road I tread, I seem to be the only person who has been told this, so it doesnt mean it will happen to you, and my idea feels like its not rationale, although I think its less of a problem than what the DWP want me to do if I am to keep getting UC. The PIP payment is disregarded, so I expect I wont be reporting another change of circumstances for about another 6 months, but then it would be constant, so UC constantly getting suspended whilst they book a new visit to collect my statements, it would be like a permanent review. The whole thing seems too much for me to handle and really inefficient, I think it would have been ok if all I had to do was enter the new balance on the journal.
The DWP have mistreated me in the past as well, for a while many years ago I had to supply sick notes whilst on LCWRA, they never provided an explanation for it, and it only got stopped when my MP stepped in.1 -
seems really unfair for u and like u say if all you had to do was to report savings on journal and they make the calculations it would be much easier .
Because I get pip and LCWRA I would have to report every month an increase and I just can’t handle going into jobcentre every month.0 -
it’s not fair they putting u through this
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It is best to contact the Job Centre to find out if a personal appearance is required, especially if you have already updated your details online. The main thing is to keep all notifications and confirmations of data updates to avoid possible problems.
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The hotline say they have no way of contacting the JC, and it was the JC who rang me earlier and spoke to me, everything I said in the post about me having to go through the process on every single change was said to me directly by the JC.
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these work coaches are on a power trip
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There is not a paper trail of what is happening, nothing is on my journal regarding the call, there is also no issued statement for February, but no notice saying its suspended either. It is like they making it up as they go along at this point.
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Why is there no inflation adjustment for £6,000-16,000? This can no longer be called big money.
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My MP has responded with offer to help.
I also got told there is another breach of process, where a request that precedes hold of payments is supposed to be at least 2 weeks notice.
I might not respond back now until there is something that actually happens, as I dont plan to report every step of whats happening. But there is still nothing on the journal and no contact to arrange a home visit. so thats where things stand at the moment.1 -
Being repeatedly failed by society and the system in my case. Trapped in a tiny upstairs flat. Can't get out, can't drive, can't travel, can't access healthcare or leisure activities. Don't have any storage space. Can't eat much, can't drink anything other than water. It's just an existence. If I had my way I'd have been bumped off half a decade ago instead of being forced to continue existing like this until the natural end.
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Yes, that's correct. If you're well under the £6k then there's no need to keep declaring changes. Though I have read that UC are asking some people who don't declare to update savings every 6-12 months. Not sure whether that's a random selection or whether there's any trigger for it.
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That’s good that ur MP will back u up . Pls keep us updated on what happens . Hope it goes ok
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Sorry to hear all thisis it anxiety disorder you have ? I know it can be really paralysing .
how long have you not been out for ? Do u have any support ?0 -
My username is a bit misleading tbh. I was gaslit into thinking my issues were all anxiety based and I just needed to 'try harder'. At one point I had a half-baked GP diagnosis of OCD and agoraphobia. But I've realised the restrictions are all physical - digestive issues, vertigo, vision and mobility issues now. Some of them were/are worsened by anxiety of course, but it was never just anxiety. Personally I think I'm on the autistic spectrum as well, which always limited my communication face to face.
I haven't been in any vehicle at all for nearly 4 years since the vertigo and digestive issues became too severe for that. I can get 'outside' on a good day, but it's just a housing estate, there aren't even any shops that I can walk to.
I do have one relative that gets my shopping each week. But they don't fully understand my situation and I haven't been able to cope with them visiting inside for about 4 years. So I don't really have any support. What is frustrating in my case is that I could potentially manage more if I was on the ground floor with a few other improvements, but there's no help with finding suitable properties in my situation. All of the 'mental' treatment I've ever tried involved being able to get to places or do the physical things that I can't manage reliably or predictably. That made me realise that there couldn't be any suitable mental treatment unless I could live in a more manageable property to start with.
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are you on the social housing list? If not you should def apply and if you have mobility issues it might get you some priority.
Sorry to hear you were gaslit - it’s happened to me quite a few times as well an it’s really out of order when we’re not listened to. Could u get an autism assessment?1 -
I understand when you say waiting for the natural end - it’s how I feel aswell . So tired of the constant struggle .
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I've been on the housing list for over 3 years at Band B. I can't get higher priority for mobility issues as I don't have a diagnosis for them and can't cope with a needs assessment being done now. I'm also only allowed to bid on 1 bedroom properties, and almost all of the ground floor places that come up on there are 2 bed. But the major limiting factor is that I physically and practically can't travel at all, so a move would have to be within a very short walking distance of my current flat, and there just aren't any suitable properties on the housing list in my area. I currently rent privately, and that would be my most realistic option for a move, but have been repeatedly refused other private rentals due to benefit income.
I couldn't get an autism assessment when I tried back in 2021 because I couldn't travel to the assessment centre and they wouldn't do it online at the time. Now I can't manage any direct communication or social interaction at all. I hope to have an autism assessment done through the internet in future if a more manageable property offers the opportunity to do that. But it wouldn't change any of the physical or practical limitations anyway, all it would do is potentially put some weight behind the reasonable adjustments that I would need in order to access healthcare for example.
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