March 26th and Green Paper Mega Discussion (ITV leaks, etc)

GBN have been banging on about it.

If they're going to raise incentives to look for work whilst cutting the benefit for those out of work to me that means they're going to abolish the LCWRA or alter it to a level which makes it hard to sustain yourself.

Isn't the basic rate of Universal Credit for Jobseekers the same as LCW (Limited Capability for Work)? It was the case when I was on LCW. On LCW you had to engage with the Work Coach be it once every month or every couple of weeks.

So if you legitimately can't work you're going to get penalised financially, in their world that means it will be an incentive to recover to find work. How on earth will this fly legally? I don't think Labour cares and Kendall has waited the last 10 years to do this.

What if you are permanently disabled? I had a feeling Labour would go this far but to see it makes me sick and for Labour to tell the media BEFORE the green paper has been released shows what kind of people they are.

It seems like madness trying to attract voters who would never vote for you by pushing away the ones who would & did. Voted labour since i could vote won't be voting for them anymore

Me too I’ve always voted labour unfortunately I even voted Starmer in as labour leader when I was a member. Never again. I didn’t expect him to become the man he is today when he sat next to Corbyn as a member of his cabinet and spoke on reducing poverty. Now they’re threatening to push me into poverty by reducing my LCWRA to the point I can no longer feed myself or have hot water, it wont incentivise me into work it’ll incentivise me into a mental health crisis. If people can’t work, they can’t work. They should all feel deeply ashamed of themselves and I should hope they face fierce opposition from their own party, from scope, and from human rights organisations

As I've posted before:

They can't fast track the legal process.

They were able to change the Winter fuel payment criteria so quickly because it was a government perk, not protected by legislation.

Green Paper: These are our plans, what do you think.

Consultation and feedback.

Then they release a White Paper.

White Paper: These are our proposals

Then the long legal process, going through both houses of parliament, delayed by any court challenges, amendments proposed by the House of Lords.

Then they finally become law.

The whole process takes years, and what eventually becomes law is usually a watered down version of the Green paper.

I believe it's a leak of the green paper.

Politicians often give speeches but stretch the truth and use language that doesn't bear close scrutiny.

They can't bypass the legal process.

I'm in LCWRA and cutting, stopping my money, or even putting a gun to my head wont make me magically well enough to work, all cutting or stopping my money will do is plunge me into poverty, make my mental health even worse, and then I will end up starving to death because of not being able to afford food unless suicide gets me first because of not being able to cope.

A lot of it is hypothetical with no basis of reality too. For example I could say I could work if you get me a job that exclusively works from home, and doesn't mind there being several days a month where I'm too sick to work. The reality is though these jobs don't exist, employers don't want to employ these people, and if you go down the road of searching for work on Universal Credit they will have you looking at many jobs that you are not capable of doing. That's where this theory falls part, as the jobs that cater for medical conditions like this are very few and far between, so claiming these people are then to fit to work is very disingenuous.