March 26th and Green Paper Mega Discussion (ITV leaks, etc)
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In the past ministers would try to hide it, but Liz Kendal admitted live on air she is breaking the law. Surprised the BBC did it. but they asked her live on BBC breakfast if she did a risk assessment, she refused to discuss it, they pushed a second time and she justified the lack of assessment by saying getting people back into work is more important (which in itself was proven a lie in the court case). She doesnt even have any remorse or a feeling of guilt. Just the pretence its about getting people into work as a coping mechanism. She was also visibly annoyed that the interview wasnt the direction she wanted.
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Does anybody know which government legislation sets the rules for the annual PIP rise ?
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Where is the legislation that allows them to do this ?
The Social Security Administration Act 1992, aligns increases with key economic indicators such as average weekly earnings and inflation.
Therefore they can't just change the law because they WANT TO..
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When do people anticipate an announcement from the Labour Front Bench? This coming Wednesday has been suggested on another thread for the launch of the Green Paper. Or will it be on 26th when Reeves makes her Spring Statement?
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I am not so sure. I remember not so long ago when they suspended payment increases for UC or was it JSA at the time for 5 years or whatever it was
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You're right that the Social Security Administration Act 1992 is a key piece of legislation, providing the framework for managing and uprating social security benefits, including PIP. However, it doesn't require benefits to be automatically increased in line with inflation every year. Instead, the Act grants the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions the authority to make regulations regarding uprating. This means there is discretion in deciding whether benefits should be uprated and by how much. Any changes to benefit rates must still be approved by Parliament.
Most recent examples of the use of this discretion was when Parliament agreed the four-year benefit freeze from 2015 to 2020. During this period, most working-age benefits, including certain elements of Universal Credit, Child Benefit, and other allowances, were frozen at their 2015-2016 levels. As a result, their real value decreased over time as inflation rose.
While the government has the power to make these decisions, they are still open to legal challenge if it's believed they are acting unlawfully (e.g., in breach of human rights legislation or if the decision-making process was flawed).
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I hope you’re right and they do back down. I read about here not answering the question of assessments. Isn’t this part of the reason Ellen Clifford won her case against the Tory’s green paper? So Labour thinks they can ignore it and it won’t go back to court
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So it's been stated on the news that people who are unfit to work will have their UC cut but if you go into the category of 'looking for work', your UC will rise.
IIm absolutely disgusted, and due to the stress of this I have vomited through the night and my crohns has flared, I'm just out of hospital after major surgery and I have 4 major surgeries in the next 2 years....the stress is having an enormous impact on all of us .
WHERE THE HECK ARE THE DISABILITY CHARITIES ? THERE SHOULD BE UPROAR AND MAJOR PUSHBACK FROM THEM.....BUT....RADIO SILENCE.
I KNOW THAT JAMES TAYLOR FROM SCOPE HAS GIVEN HIS VIEW, BUT WE NEED MORE.
I NEVER ASKED FOR MY ILLNESSES OR DISABILITIES, BUT LABOUR HAVE OUTRIGHT SAID THEY WILL CUT THE BENEFITS OF THOSE UNABLE TO WORK.
WHY SHOULD WE BE PUNISHED FOR BEING SICK, DISABLED AND VULNERABLE ?
SURELY THIS IS AN EQUALITY AND HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE....
SORRY IM RANTING....JUST SO STRESSED.
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To be fair this information was leaked early evening on Friday, it is now Sunday afternoon, I am sure formal responses will start coming out from tomorrow.
Gobsmacked that she admitted no assessment had been carried out, that's court challenge #1 then.
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if it wasn’t true surely there would be a denial by now ? Personally I think it was leaked to see what reaction it would get. Either that or someone who is on our side . The no assessment wasn’t that what Ellen Clifford won the judgement on regarding the Tory paper ?
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Please god 🙏
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these policies will never make it into law and will be significantly watered down while going through parliement.how can you admit your breaking the law and expect to get these proposals through?i don't think labour thought there would be such a backlash but i think this is only the beginning and the backlash will only intensify.having one of your own mps calling this out is great for us but very bad for labour and fair play to john mcdonnell for standing up for us and thank you.i wouldn't worry about these proposals because even if they try and force it through the courts will overturn them and the government will be having to make millions of back payments to people who are affected.i never thought thought that labour could ever be this bad but sadly this is the worst government that britains ever had the misfortune to see.
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I really hope you’re right . Thank you for being positive. It’s blatantly obvious that it’s a money saving exercise which the Tory tried and lost . I think they themselves leaked this information to see if there’s be a backlash. They’ve given themselves a few days to make changes and back down hopefully
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Yes Kimmy, I totally agree. I think this week we may start to have some official commentary.....we may even see the 'green paper' this week.
One thing I do know is.....the constant vilification and discrimination of the sick , vulnerable and disabled will continue.
I never asked to be ill......feeling very angry and 'lost' that our pittance will be cut further because we are too unwell to be in employment.
The hatred most of the political class have for the most vulnerable in society knows no bounds.
It's wicked and downright evil.
But I'm not going down without a fight !!!!
They've gone too far this time !!!!
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Incompetence Is exactly what it is.
We are all going to have to come together and 'push back' with peaceful marches etc.
Many of us will attend in our wheelchairs etc.
Yes it will be difficult, but we need to unite against this.
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Well said mac.
THE BACKLASH HAS TO CONTINUE !!!!!
IT'S THE ONLY WAY WE ARE GOING TO GET ANYWHERE WITH THESE CLOWNS .
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I agree , I fell ill an out of work 9 years ago and I'm so sick and tired of the amount off assessments I've had to go over the same thing .
My conditions have only got worse and my last pip review I had the decision maker ask me if there was going to be anymore operations on my legs ? Which I replied to NO , he then told me my award and gave it for another 3 years bur yet they know nothing is going to change , it's mind boggling 🙄
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One issue we have is that there doesn't seem to be coordination between disability charities please correct me if I am wrong. Is there a charity out there who is actively trying to stop these cuts?
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You're right Loulou, but I agree with what Kimmy said up thread, this was leaked on Friday evening, hopefully we will see charities and officials speaking out this week.
Im personally feeling a bit let down by the disabled charities, i know its a weekend but this is massive and there should have been immediate and severe pushback and criticism from those who have the platform and means to represent us.
Hoping for more official info from the 'clown show' in parliament this week too.
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Usually there’d be government opposition speaking out about this but where the disabled are concerned every main party seem united in their dislike of us . The fact labour haven’t spoken out about a possible government leak is strange to me unless they themselves leaked the information IMO
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