March 26th and Green Paper Mega Discussion (ITV leaks, etc)

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  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,088 Championing

    Do you get uc as well sorry to be nosey I just don't understand it

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 215 Empowering

    from what I’ve seen in comments on YouTube the government have said they want to rush this through quickly and any back benchers refusing to agree will be disciplined. Ellen is looking at legal action if it comes to it and has a plan of action.

  • jbss07
    jbss07 Online Community Member Posts: 16 Contributor

    Thank you for this update. Hopefully Ellen is ready to help us again! Fight these scumbags! 😡

  • FluffyCatMeow
    FluffyCatMeow Online Community Member Posts: 66 Contributor

    I hope we can find ways to cope with this stress (partly because it’s important to but partly because I’m petty and don’t want the government to have the pleasure of stressing me out lol)

    My Crohns is also flaring from the mess and it’s so hard to balance staying in the know and when to go total-distraction-mode (as much as possible)

    I hope this evening is better for you, even if just a little bit 💙

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 1,686 Empowering
  • charlie72
    charlie72 Online Community Member Posts: 88 Empowering

    What does it mean when they say the new proposals will be fast tracked? I don't understand any of it, I thought they had to have consultations etc before such things became law. Why isn't Scope putting anything on here to correct us if we could be wrong or misinformed?

    What is the usual process for changing legislation to benefits etc, and even if it gets voted through, which by sounds of it will be, can it still then be taken to court if deemed unlawful or discriminatory by the likes of Ellen Clifford?

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 1,259 Trailblazing

    I don't know what it means to be fast tracked but yes it can be challenged in court and I am sure it will be.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 215 Empowering

    the YouTuber who watched a bit of the zoom said they know about the leak on itv news . He said in his opinion it seems it was leaked by someone who doesn’t agree with it . No proof just his opinion . I also watched the black belt barrister and he said this could go through without new legislation but if the 80 MPs who disagree with it and vote against it it would be worse for Starmer. If he took away their whip it could lead to a vote of no confidence. Obviously this would need the 80 plus back benchers to stand by their word .

  • apple85
    apple85 Online Community Member Posts: 847 Championing

    That’s an awful lot of work Catherine - it’s not a one person job and though I’m reading more and more members wanting to be proactive I’m not reading many of those offering to help with the legwork

    I don’t want share details but there’s a serious amount going on in my personal life right now excluding everything going on in uk politics right now (somehow everything has landed in a condensed 3-4 month period to create the perfect storm - and I’m only a month through - definitely makes the top 5 most difficult points of my life) - I know it’s more a case of when rather than if that I burn myself out (autism overload) and have some type of nervous breakdown as I’m burying my feelings and trying to push through fuelled by anger & fear - don’t know when things will explode and catch up with me……could be next month, could be tomorrow

    Bottom line is I know im not the right person to ‘carry the torch’ (there are more respected scope members and activists outside of scope) - my aim is to light the flame and prehaps help construct the torch…………but leave it to others to carry it (you know when before the olympics the torch is carried from past host to current host via a massive relay? - disabled do get easily overwhelmed so this analogy seems appropriate)

  • pinkrose
    pinkrose Online Community Member Posts: 91 Empowering

    So that's confirmation from a legal expert that all this can go through without legislation....

    This means they can 'fast track' and they will 'fast track'.

    We are absolutely screwed.

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 1,259 Trailblazing

    I can't see 80 of them going against Starzy because they are to self serving and seem to think more about their status than the disabled community.

    As far as I am aware no Liebour MP has spoken against these proposals.

  • pinkrose
    pinkrose Online Community Member Posts: 91 Empowering

    Thank-you so much fluffy. Hoping your crohns calms down too . X

  • egister
    egister Posts: 764 Empowering

    My opinion is that political parties in all countries of the world are simply a protective screen for bureaucrats, who are also called the "deep state". If the "deep state" screws up badly, they simply change the titular leaders at elections, but the bureaucrats remain the same.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,088 Championing

    I actually feel numb to it all like us all been on such a rollercoaster my body shutdown to it I'm inprotection mode it's unstable to live under such pressure no one would never believe it unless suffered it never believe the impact it has it's very cruel but hey worked for centuries and they obviously love the power I do believe they will be challenged big time

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,088 Championing

    OOh that's good to hear labour are something else I can't say what I want to I hope thier dragged through a hedge backwards worse than tories

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 215 Empowering

    please check it out and see if I heard correctly as it doesn’t make sense . I thought a green paper was a consultation, even the Tory paper asked our opinions . Also if they want to stop LCWRA extra money isn’t that the same as Tory’s which was found unlawful. If it’s all based on the Tory’s not running a risk assessment, well doesn’t seem to gave either .

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 1,259 Trailblazing

    I don't use twitter but we need a lot more MP's to oppose it.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,088 Championing

    Oh yes it's right in front of our eyes since covid they been getting Richer richer the elites are sick

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,088 Championing

    I agree to be honest the least we can all do is email all labour mps flood them with same emails over and over clog the system up

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