Upcoming changes to benefits

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  • Ironside1990
    Ironside1990 Online Community Member Posts: 298 Empowering

    I don't think he's in Government. Just a troll.

    I don't think any politician would write BS in a tweet.

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Online Community Member Posts: 96 Empowering

    No problems, here is the link, hope it works okay.

    https://www.youtube.com/@noahbearnylelife8580

  • ancojo
    ancojo Online Community Member Posts: 12 Connected
  • ancojo
    ancojo Online Community Member Posts: 12 Connected

    Ok this is a question somebody may be able to answer?

    Lets say they do cut LWRCA payment (I wont ramble on about how I think about how immoral etc that would be) does the previous transitional protection (TP) from moving over from legacy benefits to UC not kick back as you would be worse off on UC than you were on Legacy? If so this surely should boost whatever LCWRA cuts are made back up to more or less the same amount?

    Is there no law or such that states that when switched you were not to be worse off on UC which these cuts would now cause?

    I hope this makes sense?

  • Kimmy87
    Kimmy87 Online Community Member Posts: 4,054 Championing
    edited March 12

    As the law stands TP only ever reduces. TP is added to a UC award so at the time of transfer you aren't worse off than on legacy benefits.

    New laws would need to be introduced to raise TP again if a previously awarded element (which itself reduced TP) ceased.

  • ancojo
    ancojo Online Community Member Posts: 12 Connected

    Just to add an example of what I mean this was our award figures:-

    *Transitional protection

    £390.37

    You get this because of other benefits you were on before you moved to Universal Credit. The payment will continue until you have a significant change of circumstances.*

    *****Then added to the LCWRA group and awarded LCWRA payment*****

    *Limited capability for work and work-related activity

    £416.19

    You said your health affects you at work or prevents you from working*

    *********
    The LCWRA payment is more than TP which now means you no longer need the TP uplift as you are no longer worse of on UC than you were on Legacy?

    So if they cut LCWRA by 20% about £104 that would mean LWRCA figure is now about £312 not £416 which is now £78 lower than what the TP payment of £390 meaning the switch from legacy to UC has now made us worse off by £78!

    Oh and this is based on 20% so if its 40% it would £156 worse off or 50% it would be £195!

    Point being they would now be going against the TP payment uplift which was added to stop people from being worse off switching from legacy.

    Again I hope this makes sense?

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 760 Championing

    It doesn't make any sense, and it's a non-starter. I am about to turn 50, and in the same boat as you. I refuse to worry about things that I believe won't happen.

  • anisty
    anisty Online Community Member Posts: 627 Pioneering

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/mar/12/keir-starmer-could-face-biggest-rebellion-over-disability-benefit-freeze

    Not sure if this has already been posted on the thread. There's no paywall on this and you don't need to register any details to read it.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 760 Championing

    Thankyou for linking to The Guardian. I am a reader of many years (paper copy).

  • apple85
    apple85 Online Community Member Posts: 883 Championing

    I’m not sure individuals can contact them ………. I read somewhere it had to be done via an organisation, but I could be wrong

    Edit:

    I’ve posted some relevant links below

    I wonder if a scope member wrote a letter then got as many signaturees as possible if that would be okay (I’m not thinking a petition form……or perhaps I am ) https://www.change.org/l/us/how-to-write-a-petition-letter

    https://www.bihr.org.uk/get-informed/legislation-explainers/all-about-the-european-convention-on-human-rights

    https://www.echr.coe.int/contact

    https://unric.org/en/human-rights-how-to-file-a-complaint-with-the-un/

  • stressed76
    stressed76 Online Community Member Posts: 70 Empowering

    On X from politics uk, apparently started a leak investigation. Not sure of the source is like but they got a blue tick,

  • apple85
    apple85 Online Community Member Posts: 883 Championing

    I don’t know for certain but I think they are made up of some of the new labour mps made up of starmer loyalists (well ‘labour together’ supporters - Morgan mcsweeney probably picked most of them) who then got carted into safe seats for the 2024 ge

    It’s a very unusable move setting up a mp group aimed to support the gov (especially as I doubt they’ve had a chance to read the contents of the green paper this early in advance………..at least ‘normal’ backbenchers wouldn’t of had that type of access.

    I don’t think the original friday itv leak was planned by starmer or Kendall (as I don’t think the green paper was due to drop till week of the 18th earliest), and I don’t think they expected it to be such a big news publically with more backlash then expected.

    Ever since they’ve been trying to change the narrative amongst labour mps and the public (the official new line being that it’s not fair that some disabled don’t work but get extra money) - I personally think one of starmer’s advisers ‘encouraged’ this gov support group as another way to control narrative and try and portray the majority of labour mps as United (and doing the opposite of rebelling)


    usually welfare cuts due for imminent announcements are usually a bit buried (don’t remember any of the sunak/hunt/stride suggested cuts making the front page)

    Someone with a better memory will remember precidents better but this may be the largest welfare story to totally blow up in this way

    It really seems disability welfare reform for starmers Labour Party holds the same high stakes as the Rwanda scheme for sunaks Tory party

  • apple85
    apple85 Online Community Member Posts: 883 Championing

    One fear that did pop up is labour adding to any legislation that only top of leak rumors of lcwra awards being cut, that TP could be dropped

    however I think the court case that told the dwp to uphold and honour to was pretty recent and would the gov challenge that decision via a law change so soon

    My head is going to really dystopian places but would any of us have even considered the content in the itv leaks from last Friday?

    It’s all a bit silly season right now, common sense seems to have left the dwp offices and this point even the insane may not be off the table

  • DFDone
    DFDone Online Community Member Posts: 38 Connected

    Ive read many articals, please no changes are certain but if its a freeze, only means its froaen for now, just hope they dont change the system by means testing or somthing worse or the same.

    The admin on here seem to be hot on the point so may be able to help. Read the lower rate may be scrapped, but all with long term illness will go on the higher rate, but they may put another benefit for those affected, iam worried sick with you all.

    Those who voted this lot in were promise change for the better, they are not fit to govern,

    Trumps puppets,

  • TheManFromLondon
    TheManFromLondon Online Community Member Posts: 10 Connected

    @Adrian_Scope

    "There are also expected to be smaller cuts including raising the basic rate of universal credit for those looking for – or in – work, while cutting it for those judged as unfit for work, as an incentive for some disabled people to seek employment."

    Source: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/mar/12/keir-starmer-could-face-biggest-rebellion-over-disability-benefit-freeze

    So now its clear, when we talked about that article the other day, it is indeed the Basic rate that will be reduced (cut), or at least they consider doing that.

  • stressed76
    stressed76 Online Community Member Posts: 70 Empowering

    Ok bear with me, carers is in the don't have to look for work group same as the lcwra are they going to be punished too?

    I really think they weren't expecting such a public backlash from everyone inc thier own mps the tuc etc

  • apple85
    apple85 Online Community Member Posts: 883 Championing

    I don’t think the itv links were meant to happen

    Even though it’s tough now it may turn out to be a blessing that it did leak and it’s become this huge story/potential scandal

    More exposure may give us more opportunities to share things from our perspective rather than the usual inbalance

    Green paper isn’t released till Monday earliest

    If you have one of the streaming sites (or even the free itv movie night on their app) take a long weekend from the web and have a 4 night movie binge

    Some people need a time out in the calm before the storm……….other will need to do so within the aftermath of the green paper

    I’m personally planning a long time from politics and probably the forum probably starting a few days after reeves spring statement - I’m trying to do my part trying to be proactive in the next fortnight+ as I’m slowing getting burnt out and I need time to concentrate on things going on in my own personal life)

    I think everyone will need to schedule breaks from the forum, social media and google news as the frequency of new articles is recking everyone MH and for those wanting to be proactive about this need to know when to look after themselves

    Scope has so many posting figuring out what they can do or offer - I think I mentioned before members need to work together so everyone can take a break and someone else carries on the momentum - a bit like a baton relay race

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 1,381 Trailblazing
  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 777 Trailblazing
  • axab43
    axab43 Online Community Member Posts: 28 Connected

    It need not be a worrying trend as the Tories have tried before to discriminate between mental health and physical ill health and it was shown as blatant discrimination. It is discrimination, obviously and that will be taken to court too. Tiktok is not the best place to look at during all this time.

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