Upcoming changes to benefits

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  • apple85
    apple85 Online Community Member Posts: 881 Championing

    I’m sorry

    That was a harsh post

    I just read the times article (the times are having a free to read weekend) and I persume they would have direct quotes from the dwp this close to the green paper launch)

    This article has just knocked me for ten if I’m honest

    It sounds like autistic ppl like myself may have our points totally wiped reassessment

    I’m really trying to stay calm till we can read the official text on Tuesday but it’s hard not to feel hopeless and I hope they’ll be other articles on Sunday saying there will be no way dwp/treasury will be allowed to go to these extremes.


    I know the idea of fighting back right now feeling impossible right now and these reforms may be the highest stake reforms many of us have encountered thus far and right now I just want to survive out of spite or take one of the political architects of these reforms down with me (if reeves or Kendall have indeed gone down this unthinkable path)

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 371 Pioneering

    does anyone know how long it would take to bring these changes in ? Will they need to go to a vote and will they be delayed by any court action ? This is even harsher than the Tory’s and they lost in court so how can this be legal

  • Summerlove
    Summerlove Online Community Member Posts: 128 Empowering

    Starmer wishes to abolish nhs England?

    The flagship of Labours pride and joy is this for real they have been staunch in protecting nhs since forever nye bevans will haunt the f@kker

  • Summerlove
    Summerlove Online Community Member Posts: 128 Empowering

    "One leading rebel, though, said they expected that “when the whips got to work” the rebellion would “fizzle out”, adding: “There is a lot of anxiety but I don’t think it’s going to turn into a huge rebellion.” The government believes it more than has the numbers to get the reforms through."

    That's what I think too he has shown no mercy when it comes to removing 6 whips at a time.

    To think he was named after the founder of the Labour Party and comes from working class background

    This one's been bought a plant

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 758 Championing

    HMG are to abolish the NHS England quango. Not the actual NHS. (It has only been around since 2012, part of the Lansley reforms).

  • Summerlove
    Summerlove Online Community Member Posts: 128 Empowering

    Yes I'm fully aware he is now independent ousted by 'Keir' from the Labour Party that was his party his whole political life. First had his whip removed on jumped up charges of anti semitic and when cleared of that got expelled over his opposition to a war in Ukraine that quite a few signed so keir took their whips away.too

  • HollisMcBobbery
    HollisMcBobbery Online Community Member Posts: 18 Contributor

    Everyone try to stay strong. I have a feeling there will be growing support. This will be the biggest rebellion issue they have faced and will gain alot more public attention going forward.

  • Summerlove
    Summerlove Online Community Member Posts: 128 Empowering

    I must read it wrong sigh of relief for that small mercy I guess

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 758 Championing

    Stay strong, Martin. You absolutely have worth.

    Look at the vastness of even our own unremarkable spiral galaxy - 200,000 light years across, and devoid of life as far as we know, except us.

    Each one of us is a bloomin' miracle. Try never to forget that. (A bit of a weird thing to say, but that's just me, also alone in this world).

  • Summerlove
    Summerlove Online Community Member Posts: 128 Empowering

    You do realise keir said he was best friends ŵth Corbyn it's Oscar Wildes quote true friends stab you in the front.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 758 Championing
    edited March 15
  • Summerlove
    Summerlove Online Community Member Posts: 128 Empowering

    Nah but what I am heartened about was testing waters with 'leaks' and finding only 20% of the public agree with disability and sickness benefits being cut.

    This has always been the case which is quite an achievement with the billions spent on Propaganda around welfare claimants.

  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 768 Trailblazing
    edited March 15

    It is looking more and more like what was proposed in the Tory consultation.

    They proposed removing the adaptations descriptors (2 points each), these include dressing, and washing and also include preparing food. My prediction was they would target descriptors mentioned in the Tory plans and quite possibly not even do another consultation as one has already been done.

    A lot of people it looks will be affected for both physical and mental needs, unless this gets watered down enough.

  • Summerlove
    Summerlove Online Community Member Posts: 128 Empowering
  • Summerlove
    Summerlove Online Community Member Posts: 128 Empowering

    Yes meet the new boss same as the old malarkey

    The reason they wish to take out the descriptors is if it gets through it can't be challenged in a tribunal because they only interpret law based on those.

    Sneaky way of pushing through reforms without the worry of record levels of tribunals later on.

    So the first part of legislation The Green Paper needs to be challenged

  • Summerlove
    Summerlove Online Community Member Posts: 128 Empowering

    When I read the article seems only Red Ed was vocal specifically about Welfare cuts

    That's my man Ed is a great Labourite will not forget his support.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 371 Pioneering

    can this be challenged in court or will it be brought in quickly? Surely this goes against our human rights ? I’m really starting to wish rishi was still PM. Starmer and reeves are hateful.

  • Summerlove
    Summerlove Online Community Member Posts: 128 Empowering

    Yes it can prior.

    That's what Ellen clifford did with the Tories proposals it was only at The Green paper stage at the time she took it to court.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 371 Pioneering

    so if this is a green paper does that mean it’s at consultation stage ? The Tory’s at least posted questionnaires for us to fill out . Can this be watered down or be delayed if it goes to court ? I’m some reports I’m reading a pip freeze would need to go to a vote but not changing pip or lcwra amounts. It’s all worse than the Tory’s plans and they were defeated in court . Can they really force sick ppl to work or they lose benefits?