I thought UC LCWRA re-assessments were on hold (for people already getting LCWRA)? But...

Kimmy87

StillIRise said:

Kimmy87 said:

I had the message requesting my GP contact details two weeks ago. I responded the next day, and am yet to hear anything further. 

Thanks for sharing Kimmy!  So no UC50, no referral letter for an assessment at all?  This is so interesting.
Are you on LCWRA or LCW?

No nothing at all yet apart from that message two weeks ago. 
I am on LCWRA. 

StillIRise

paries1 said:

Kimmy87 said:

I had the message requesting my GP contact details two weeks ago. I responded the next day, and am yet to hear anything further. 

They must be contacting GPs before to ask a few things before referring 

Back in my ESA days I remember them asking to contact my doctor.  My psychiatrist then mentioned that he'd filled in a form they'd sent him.  Next thing I knew DWP wrote to me confirming I was in the Support Group.  I didn't have an assessment and I don't think I even filled out a new ESA50 form.  It's possible they mark it down as the condition being unlikely to change in some cases or something.

paries1

StillIRise said:

paries1 said:

Kimmy87 said:

I had the message requesting my GP contact details two weeks ago. I responded the next day, and am yet to hear anything further. 

They must be contacting GPs before to ask a few things before referring 

Back in my ESA days I remember them asking to contact my doctor.  My psychiatrist then mentioned that he'd filled in a form they'd sent him.  Next thing I knew DWP wrote to me confirming I was in the Support Group.  I didn't have an assessment and I don't think I even filled out a new ESA50 form.  It's possible they mark it down as the condition being unlikely to change in some cases or something.

I think that’s called ES113 or something like that. It’s what the normally send out to Drs , got question like 
when was the last time you saw patient 
how do they manage their issues 
Do you think they can work 
amongst other things 

poppy123456

Yes ESA113 and UC113. You can see it here and it's the same for UC. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/esa113-interactive-for-use-by-healthcare-practitioners

paries1

poppy123456 said:

Yes ESA113 and UC113. You can see it here and it's the same for UC. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/esa113-interactive-for-use-by-healthcare-practitioners

It seems in some cases they are contacting Drs before making a referral. I don’t think they’ve ever done this before ? Prob because it’s been such a long time since reassessing that they want to make sure it won’t send us over the edge. 

StillIRise

paries1 said:

poppy123456 said:

Yes ESA113 and UC113. You can see it here and it's the same for UC. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/esa113-interactive-for-use-by-healthcare-practitioners

It seems in some cases they are contacting Drs before making a referral. I don’t think they’ve ever done this before ? Prob because it’s been such a long time since reassessing that they want to make sure it won’t send us over the edge. 

Haha, they could not care less about sending us over the edge. If this is what they are doing re contacting doctors first it will only be because it's quicker or cheaper for DWP to do this, not because it's easier for us.  I think the fact that Kimmy got the GP message on her journal two weeks ago and STILL has not received a referral or UC50 is very interesting and does suggest they might be taking this approach for some people. 

paries1

StillIRise said:

paries1 said:

poppy123456 said:

Yes ESA113 and UC113. You can see it here and it's the same for UC. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/esa113-interactive-for-use-by-healthcare-practitioners

It seems in some cases they are contacting Drs before making a referral. I don’t think they’ve ever done this before ? Prob because it’s been such a long time since reassessing that they want to make sure it won’t send us over the edge. 

Haha, they could not care less about sending us over the edge. If this is what they are doing re contacting doctors first it will only be because it's quicker or cheaper for DWP to do this, not because it's easier for us.  I think the fact that Kimmy got the GP message on her journal two weeks ago and STILL has not received a referral or UC50 is very interesting and does suggest they might be taking this approach for some people. 

Lol that’s a good point , it is DWP after all , I was trying to give them the benefit  of the doubt BUT I think you’re absolutely right ! 

StillIRise

paries1 said:

StillIRise said:

paries1 said:

poppy123456 said:

Yes ESA113 and UC113. You can see it here and it's the same for UC. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/esa113-interactive-for-use-by-healthcare-practitioners

It seems in some cases they are contacting Drs before making a referral. I don’t think they’ve ever done this before ? Prob because it’s been such a long time since reassessing that they want to make sure it won’t send us over the edge. 

Haha, they could not care less about sending us over the edge. If this is what they are doing re contacting doctors first it will only be because it's quicker or cheaper for DWP to do this, not because it's easier for us.  I think the fact that Kimmy got the GP message on her journal two weeks ago and STILL has not received a referral or UC50 is very interesting and does suggest they might be taking this approach for some people. 

Lol that’s a good point , it is DWP after all , I was trying to give them the Benedict of the doubt BUT I think you’re absolutely right ! 

There was definitely a marker on my file that said I was so mentally unstable that they should not even bother to ask me to fill in forms.  I know that sounds very odd but it's true.  I can't remember what the marker is called and I don't know if it is still on there.  Several years ago they sent me a PIP new claim form.  I was in a very bad state mentally and I totally failed to fill in or send back the PIP form at all.  To my surprise about 4 months later they contacted me to arrange a PIP phone assessment despite me never having sent back a form.  It was explained to me that due to this marker on my file they would not shut down my claims even if I ignored all my forms as I was marked as not having the mental capacity. 

One can have this marker on their file without even knowing it until someone at DWP mentions it to you.  It would have originally have been put on my file by ESA.  Maybe it is still on my DWP files. 

paries1

StillIRise said:

paries1 said:

StillIRise said:

paries1 said:

poppy123456 said:

Yes ESA113 and UC113. You can see it here and it's the same for UC. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/esa113-interactive-for-use-by-healthcare-practitioners

It seems in some cases they are contacting Drs before making a referral. I don’t think they’ve ever done this before ? Prob because it’s been such a long time since reassessing that they want to make sure it won’t send us over the edge. 

Haha, they could not care less about sending us over the edge. If this is what they are doing re contacting doctors first it will only be because it's quicker or cheaper for DWP to do this, not because it's easier for us.  I think the fact that Kimmy got the GP message on her journal two weeks ago and STILL has not received a referral or UC50 is very interesting and does suggest they might be taking this approach for some people. 

Lol that’s a good point , it is DWP after all , I was trying to give them the Benedict of the doubt BUT I think you’re absolutely right ! 

There was definitely a marker on my file that said I was so mentally unstable that they should not even bother to ask me to fill in forms.  I know that sounds very odd but it's true.  I can't remember what the marker is called and I don't know if it is still on there.  Several years ago they sent me a PIP new claim form.  I was in a very bad state mentally and I totally failed to fill in or send back the PIP form at all.  To my surprise about 4 months later they contacted me to arrange a PIP phone assessment despite me never having sent back a form.  It was explained to me that due to this marker on my file they would not shut down my claims even if I ignored all my forms as I was marked as not having the mental capacity. 

One can have this marker on their file without even knowing it until someone at DWP mentions it to you.  It would have originally have been put on my file by ESA.  Maybe it is still on my DWP files. 

Could be still on there then ? Have you anyway of finding out ? Surely if it was on there they can’t remove it 

StillIRise

paries1 said:

StillIRise said:

paries1 said:

StillIRise said:

paries1 said:

poppy123456 said:

Yes ESA113 and UC113. You can see it here and it's the same for UC. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/esa113-interactive-for-use-by-healthcare-practitioners

It seems in some cases they are contacting Drs before making a referral. I don’t think they’ve ever done this before ? Prob because it’s been such a long time since reassessing that they want to make sure it won’t send us over the edge. 

Haha, they could not care less about sending us over the edge. If this is what they are doing re contacting doctors first it will only be because it's quicker or cheaper for DWP to do this, not because it's easier for us.  I think the fact that Kimmy got the GP message on her journal two weeks ago and STILL has not received a referral or UC50 is very interesting and does suggest they might be taking this approach for some people. 

Lol that’s a good point , it is DWP after all , I was trying to give them the Benedict of the doubt BUT I think you’re absolutely right ! 

There was definitely a marker on my file that said I was so mentally unstable that they should not even bother to ask me to fill in forms.  I know that sounds very odd but it's true.  I can't remember what the marker is called and I don't know if it is still on there.  Several years ago they sent me a PIP new claim form.  I was in a very bad state mentally and I totally failed to fill in or send back the PIP form at all.  To my surprise about 4 months later they contacted me to arrange a PIP phone assessment despite me never having sent back a form.  It was explained to me that due to this marker on my file they would not shut down my claims even if I ignored all my forms as I was marked as not having the mental capacity. 

One can have this marker on their file without even knowing it until someone at DWP mentions it to you.  It would have originally have been put on my file by ESA.  Maybe it is still on my DWP files. 

Could be still on there then ? Have you anyway of finding out ? Surely if it was on there they can’t remove it 

I'm not sure.

I feel so tired of living at the mercy of the DWP.  I would love to be well enough to resume a normal working life. 

paries1

StillIRise said:

paries1 said:

StillIRise said:

paries1 said:

StillIRise said:

paries1 said:

poppy123456 said:

Yes ESA113 and UC113. You can see it here and it's the same for UC. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/esa113-interactive-for-use-by-healthcare-practitioners

It seems in some cases they are contacting Drs before making a referral. I don’t think they’ve ever done this before ? Prob because it’s been such a long time since reassessing that they want to make sure it won’t send us over the edge. 

Haha, they could not care less about sending us over the edge. If this is what they are doing re contacting doctors first it will only be because it's quicker or cheaper for DWP to do this, not because it's easier for us.  I think the fact that Kimmy got the GP message on her journal two weeks ago and STILL has not received a referral or UC50 is very interesting and does suggest they might be taking this approach for some people. 

Lol that’s a good point , it is DWP after all , I was trying to give them the Benedict of the doubt BUT I think you’re absolutely right ! 

There was definitely a marker on my file that said I was so mentally unstable that they should not even bother to ask me to fill in forms.  I know that sounds very odd but it's true.  I can't remember what the marker is called and I don't know if it is still on there.  Several years ago they sent me a PIP new claim form.  I was in a very bad state mentally and I totally failed to fill in or send back the PIP form at all.  To my surprise about 4 months later they contacted me to arrange a PIP phone assessment despite me never having sent back a form.  It was explained to me that due to this marker on my file they would not shut down my claims even if I ignored all my forms as I was marked as not having the mental capacity. 

One can have this marker on their file without even knowing it until someone at DWP mentions it to you.  It would have originally have been put on my file by ESA.  Maybe it is still on my DWP files. 

Could be still on there then ? Have you anyway of finding out ? Surely if it was on there they can’t remove it 

I'm not sure.

I feel so tired of living at the mercy of the DWP.  I would love to be well enough to resume a normal working life. 

I know exactly how you feel , I worked for 25 years until I had a breakdown. If they’d just leave me alone a bit longer I’ll get a part time job and get them off my back . 

Ray212

I think many people feel the same, DWP don't understand that though, if its not one thing it's another. 

Cher_Alumni

I'm sorry the process isn't easier for you all. I hope in having found each other to confide in and compare, some of the anxiety is lessened. Please do keep leaning on us throughout.

And @StillIrise that is a heck of a powerful username, the Maya Angelou poem your inspiration? 

StillIRise

paries1 said:

StillIRise said:

paries1 said:

StillIRise said:

paries1 said:

StillIRise said:

paries1 said:

poppy123456 said:

Yes ESA113 and UC113. You can see it here and it's the same for UC. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/esa113-interactive-for-use-by-healthcare-practitioners

It seems in some cases they are contacting Drs before making a referral. I don’t think they’ve ever done this before ? Prob because it’s been such a long time since reassessing that they want to make sure it won’t send us over the edge. 

Haha, they could not care less about sending us over the edge. If this is what they are doing re contacting doctors first it will only be because it's quicker or cheaper for DWP to do this, not because it's easier for us.  I think the fact that Kimmy got the GP message on her journal two weeks ago and STILL has not received a referral or UC50 is very interesting and does suggest they might be taking this approach for some people. 

Lol that’s a good point , it is DWP after all , I was trying to give them the Benedict of the doubt BUT I think you’re absolutely right ! 

There was definitely a marker on my file that said I was so mentally unstable that they should not even bother to ask me to fill in forms.  I know that sounds very odd but it's true.  I can't remember what the marker is called and I don't know if it is still on there.  Several years ago they sent me a PIP new claim form.  I was in a very bad state mentally and I totally failed to fill in or send back the PIP form at all.  To my surprise about 4 months later they contacted me to arrange a PIP phone assessment despite me never having sent back a form.  It was explained to me that due to this marker on my file they would not shut down my claims even if I ignored all my forms as I was marked as not having the mental capacity. 

One can have this marker on their file without even knowing it until someone at DWP mentions it to you.  It would have originally have been put on my file by ESA.  Maybe it is still on my DWP files. 

Could be still on there then ? Have you anyway of finding out ? Surely if it was on there they can’t remove it 

I'm not sure.

I feel so tired of living at the mercy of the DWP.  I would love to be well enough to resume a normal working life. 

I know exactly how you feel , I worked for 25 years until I had a breakdown. If they’d just leave me alone a bit longer I’ll get a part time job and get them off my back . 

Sorry to hear you had a breakdown.  I had a good career once but my mental health conditions escalated to the point where I was no longer functioning eventually.

Fingers crossed this latest UC stuff will work out just fine for us all. 

paries1

StillIRise said:

paries1 said:

StillIRise said:

paries1 said:

StillIRise said:

paries1 said:

StillIRise said:

paries1 said:

poppy123456 said:

Yes ESA113 and UC113. You can see it here and it's the same for UC. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/esa113-interactive-for-use-by-healthcare-practitioners

It seems in some cases they are contacting Drs before making a referral. I don’t think they’ve ever done this before ? Prob because it’s been such a long time since reassessing that they want to make sure it won’t send us over the edge. 

Haha, they could not care less about sending us over the edge. If this is what they are doing re contacting doctors first it will only be because it's quicker or cheaper for DWP to do this, not because it's easier for us.  I think the fact that Kimmy got the GP message on her journal two weeks ago and STILL has not received a referral or UC50 is very interesting and does suggest they might be taking this approach for some people. 

Lol that’s a good point , it is DWP after all , I was trying to give them the Benedict of the doubt BUT I think you’re absolutely right ! 

There was definitely a marker on my file that said I was so mentally unstable that they should not even bother to ask me to fill in forms.  I know that sounds very odd but it's true.  I can't remember what the marker is called and I don't know if it is still on there.  Several years ago they sent me a PIP new claim form.  I was in a very bad state mentally and I totally failed to fill in or send back the PIP form at all.  To my surprise about 4 months later they contacted me to arrange a PIP phone assessment despite me never having sent back a form.  It was explained to me that due to this marker on my file they would not shut down my claims even if I ignored all my forms as I was marked as not having the mental capacity. 

One can have this marker on their file without even knowing it until someone at DWP mentions it to you.  It would have originally have been put on my file by ESA.  Maybe it is still on my DWP files. 

Could be still on there then ? Have you anyway of finding out ? Surely if it was on there they can’t remove it 

I'm not sure.

I feel so tired of living at the mercy of the DWP.  I would love to be well enough to resume a normal working life. 

I know exactly how you feel , I worked for 25 years until I had a breakdown. If they’d just leave me alone a bit longer I’ll get a part time job and get them off my back . 

Sorry to hear you had a breakdown.  I had a good career once but my mental health conditions escalated to the point where I was no longer functioning eventually.

Fingers crossed this latest UC stuff will work out just fine for us all. 

Thx Stilllrise,

it’s all really stressful isn’t it? 

Let’s see what happens over the next few weeks and keep all of us updated on here. 

This is a great forum and so glad I found it . 

I hope after they contact your Consultant they’ll leave you alone  

paries1

Ray212 said:

I think many people feel the same, DWP don't understand that though, if its not one thing it's another. 

I know , you’re right Ray212. 

StillIRise

paries1 said:

StillIRise said:

paries1 said:

StillIRise said:

paries1 said:

StillIRise said:

paries1 said:

StillIRise said:

paries1 said:

poppy123456 said:

Yes ESA113 and UC113. You can see it here and it's the same for UC. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/esa113-interactive-for-use-by-healthcare-practitioners

It seems in some cases they are contacting Drs before making a referral. I don’t think they’ve ever done this before ? Prob because it’s been such a long time since reassessing that they want to make sure it won’t send us over the edge. 

Haha, they could not care less about sending us over the edge. If this is what they are doing re contacting doctors first it will only be because it's quicker or cheaper for DWP to do this, not because it's easier for us.  I think the fact that Kimmy got the GP message on her journal two weeks ago and STILL has not received a referral or UC50 is very interesting and does suggest they might be taking this approach for some people. 

Lol that’s a good point , it is DWP after all , I was trying to give them the Benedict of the doubt BUT I think you’re absolutely right ! 

There was definitely a marker on my file that said I was so mentally unstable that they should not even bother to ask me to fill in forms.  I know that sounds very odd but it's true.  I can't remember what the marker is called and I don't know if it is still on there.  Several years ago they sent me a PIP new claim form.  I was in a very bad state mentally and I totally failed to fill in or send back the PIP form at all.  To my surprise about 4 months later they contacted me to arrange a PIP phone assessment despite me never having sent back a form.  It was explained to me that due to this marker on my file they would not shut down my claims even if I ignored all my forms as I was marked as not having the mental capacity. 

One can have this marker on their file without even knowing it until someone at DWP mentions it to you.  It would have originally have been put on my file by ESA.  Maybe it is still on my DWP files. 

Could be still on there then ? Have you anyway of finding out ? Surely if it was on there they can’t remove it 

I'm not sure.

I feel so tired of living at the mercy of the DWP.  I would love to be well enough to resume a normal working life. 

I know exactly how you feel , I worked for 25 years until I had a breakdown. If they’d just leave me alone a bit longer I’ll get a part time job and get them off my back . 

Sorry to hear you had a breakdown.  I had a good career once but my mental health conditions escalated to the point where I was no longer functioning eventually.

Fingers crossed this latest UC stuff will work out just fine for us all. 

Thx Stilllrise,

it’s all really stressful isn’t it? 

Let’s see what happens over the next few weeks and keep all of us updated on here. 

This is a great forum and so glad I found it . 

I hope after they contact your Consultant they’ll leave you alone  

I hope your process goes smoothly too. 

StillIRise

Cher_Scope said:

I'm sorry the process isn't easier for you all. I hope in having found each other to confide in and compare, some of the anxiety is lessened. Please do keep leaning on us throughout.

And @StillIrise that is a heck of a powerful username, the Maya Angelou poem your inspiration? 

Hi Cher.  Yes it's from the Maya Angelou poem.  

It's good finding each other here.  

paries1

StillIRise said:

paries1 said:

StillIRise said:

paries1 said:

StillIRise said:

paries1 said:

StillIRise said:

paries1 said:

StillIRise said:

paries1 said:

poppy123456 said:

Yes ESA113 and UC113. You can see it here and it's the same for UC. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/esa113-interactive-for-use-by-healthcare-practitioners

It seems in some cases they are contacting Drs before making a referral. I don’t think they’ve ever done this before ? Prob because it’s been such a long time since reassessing that they want to make sure it won’t send us over the edge. 

Haha, they could not care less about sending us over the edge. If this is what they are doing re contacting doctors first it will only be because it's quicker or cheaper for DWP to do this, not because it's easier for us.  I think the fact that Kimmy got the GP message on her journal two weeks ago and STILL has not received a referral or UC50 is very interesting and does suggest they might be taking this approach for some people. 

Lol that’s a good point , it is DWP after all , I was trying to give them the Benedict of the doubt BUT I think you’re absolutely right ! 

There was definitely a marker on my file that said I was so mentally unstable that they should not even bother to ask me to fill in forms.  I know that sounds very odd but it's true.  I can't remember what the marker is called and I don't know if it is still on there.  Several years ago they sent me a PIP new claim form.  I was in a very bad state mentally and I totally failed to fill in or send back the PIP form at all.  To my surprise about 4 months later they contacted me to arrange a PIP phone assessment despite me never having sent back a form.  It was explained to me that due to this marker on my file they would not shut down my claims even if I ignored all my forms as I was marked as not having the mental capacity. 

One can have this marker on their file without even knowing it until someone at DWP mentions it to you.  It would have originally have been put on my file by ESA.  Maybe it is still on my DWP files. 

Could be still on there then ? Have you anyway of finding out ? Surely if it was on there they can’t remove it 

I'm not sure.

I feel so tired of living at the mercy of the DWP.  I would love to be well enough to resume a normal working life. 

I know exactly how you feel , I worked for 25 years until I had a breakdown. If they’d just leave me alone a bit longer I’ll get a part time job and get them off my back . 

Sorry to hear you had a breakdown.  I had a good career once but my mental health conditions escalated to the point where I was no longer functioning eventually.

Fingers crossed this latest UC stuff will work out just fine for us all. 

Thx Stilllrise,

it’s all really stressful isn’t it? 

Let’s see what happens over the next few weeks and keep all of us updated on here. 

This is a great forum and so glad I found it . 

I hope after they contact your Consultant they’ll leave you alone  

I hope your process goes smoothly too.  If they do contact your GP,  even the fact that you're on antipsychotics carries weight with DWP.  These are serious medications and doctors don't put people o them unless the conditions are severe.  

Same for you stillllrise , thanks for your support too .  

JBS2022

My cousin received a journal entry about contacting his GP a week ago, and today was told he was staying LCWRA, he hasn't even seen his GP in 3 years so the info off the GP would be out of date, they asked if he was still taking antipsychotics and that was that. The DWP are trying to review as many people without needing a phone or face to face assessment as possible.