Had enough of PIP process

WhatThe

The figures confirming its success at tribunal stage, speaks volumes….. sadly not everyone is lucky enough to reach that point, and those that do so, have suffered the process and exasperated their health in doing so.

...in turn leaning ever more heavily on the NHS

WhatThe

But members were talking about forms 

WhatThe

WHY is anyone surprised that a GP or other support worker might care about people they know very well!?

Community_Scope

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Adrian_Scope

Good morning

I've found it interesting to read the different viewpoints shared by each of you. 

This difference of opinions is what makes our community a great space for learning and sharing. However, it's important to keep in mind that people's thoughts on PIP can vary due to their personal experiences, beliefs, and situations. To keep the conversation going, please remember to be kind, considerate and be sure not to spread misinformation. 

poppy123456

WhatThe said:

Sometimes you need to stop for a moment and think maybe it’s your help that isn’t helping them.

Not nice or necessary

I don't see anything that wasn't nice in my comment, I was just being honest. Not everyone has a good understanding the of PIP descriptors and what they mean, which isn't helpful when trying to help or advise someone with the claims process.

chiarieds

I'm also concerned about the OP talking about 'clients' (when I was a physio I rather had patients) as it's a shame if anyone feels they have to pay to get advice about PIP when much is freely available on the internet.

ladyluck

Sound- you make some interesting observations. I certainly do believe the system now to be completely obsessed with turning people down, and a tick box exercise. The thing that seriously worries,  me is that disabled people feel so worthless after the battle, only to be turned down,  they don’t bother to fight on. Having a family member on the old system of DLA I also believe it was a much fairer system. The one currently on offer seems to try and do everything to stop new claimants. The answers I gave were not translated into the assessors’ findings, after a lengthy MR where the decision maker asked me the same questions again, ( on receipt of my appeal) with the same answers,  and awarded me the points I should have received. That happens a great deal. And the people leaving the assesment panels are also being vocal about the unfairness of it all. To cap it all off, they gave me a reassessment date  of 10 years, the maximum. That tells me they got it totally wrong. So keep fighting, all of you, and let’s hope the government moves on this. Too many sick people are being ignored.  

Sound

Thank you LadyLuck, means a lot. 

ladyluck

You are welcome @sound. The idea of these helpful pages is for us all to give our views not just one or two. I wish you luck, and remember, keep the glass half full, not half empty.