About the PM's (Sunak's) speech: Stop demonising us

Jimm_Alumni

I imagine for many as well, they've had such bad experiences asking for reasonable adjustments in previous jobs they just begin to believe there is no workplace that will accommodate what adjustments they need. I've had employers not take my requests for reasonable adjustments seriously, at least until I started at Scope 😁

Remote working really can open up a lot for many people with disabilities. But I firmly disagree with forcing people into work, instead emphasis should be put on educating employers and just people in general about adjustments and what your rights are as a disabled person in the workplace.

Andi66

They had thise work places remploy I think they were called, when Cameron and Osborne got in the closed them all down, making disabled people unemployed

Catherine21

I just can't take the pressure of all this its to much the constant worry of what will happen will I be made to work knowing I cant then that triggers losing everything I'm trying to stay grounded but my mind racing feel sick headaches stomach ache mentally I'm losing it more and more I keep emailing labour over and over thiers a reason on lwcra same fir everyone trying to use tools as they say this is why I don't go out to keep myself out of trouble yh breathe they say I'm breathing alright panic attacks feel so vulnerable exposed phoned smaratians sounded like oldish lady doing it for something to do no offence phoned crisis team got told to touch wardrobe have shower cup of tea if still feel sane call back called saneline anxiety uk triggered big time feel vulnerable sorry to ramble

Cantilip

How this seems to me - I think I've picked up there are (or were, closed down by cuts), specific schemes to help disabled people into work but the DWP has no power over the average employer, the owner of your local factory or high street shop, so, they can say you ought to work but they cannot make anyone employ you. @Jimm_Scope is this the case?

Catherine21

Can they legally make us work if we have proof we can't surly cant make millions go back if unable to this is the hardest part guessing all the time yes I know have to wait arrghhh

poppy123456

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/882797#Comment_882797

No one can make any employer employ someone and this includes the Government.

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/882802#Comment_882802

If someone is found fit for work and they don't do what is asked of them then yes you can be sanctioned.

As for any possible changes in the future, no one knows anything at all right now so all the questions you have asked can't be answered. You keep speculating what may or may not happen but no one knows, including yourself. All that labour has said is "those that can work, should work" and that can mean anything.

Catherine21

I know your right I'm expecting a crystal ball to appear id drive a Saint mad thanks poppy x

Jimm_Alumni

No matter what happens @Catherine21 there would be many people fighting such a thing. Yes, we don't know what they mean by "Those that can work, should work". However, there are many other protections that we have. The Equality Act contains protections to disabled people that would prevent discrimination.

Catherine21

Thankyou jimmi

Cantilip

Thanks, Poppy. Another purely practical obstacle re both disabled and able-bodied returning to work is the jobs have to exist. So much is hot air that doesn't translate to real life. OK, say there are 50 vacancies in Skegness and 50 people looking for work in Southend. Even if the Southenders were willing to move, which they might well not be because they couldn't find anywhere to live in Skegness, they have elderly parents to care for in Southend, their children are about to take exams and so on, the people in Southend have to be able to do the jobs in Skegness or have to train first,

Andi66

Surely if you have medical evidence that they can't make you work.

Meg24

What worries me is that nobody is talking about the cuts that already happened, not even the Greens. The bedroom tax, the cuts to council tax benefit, and worst of all the removal of disability premiums from ESA to UC. These leave us thousands of pounds worse off yet no-one is saying a word about them. I just can't manage to lose any more money, I have lost so much already including also the warm home discount I no longer get either after getting it for years. I don't know how I'll manage when all my TP has eroded, it's just impossible.

Catherine21

How much does it erode down to I've got bedroom tax too

Catherine21

How much do you het a month on uc then for lwcra all together

poppy123456

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/882893#Comment_882893

It will eventually erode to zero so there will be no TP at all. How quick it erodes down will depend on circumstances. If other elements increase or you become entitled to other elements the TP decreases.

poppy123456

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/882888#Comment_882888

I wouldn't expect there to have been any mention of disability premiums because in the UC regulations they don't exist. Yes, I too receive SDP with my ESA. I also receive carers allowance so will eventually be even worse off.

Catherine21

So you just get 400 a month so bludy confusing

poppy123456

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/882902#Comment_882902

What do you mean just £400/month? I've already advised you on other threads many times. Your UC will include standard allowance for single person, LCWRA element, housing element and TP element.

Catherine21

I know you advised I don't understand what they expect everyone to be geniuses well that's not ne at all

poppy123456

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/882906#Comment_882906

No, no one expects that at all. You're panicking and not helping yourself because you're constantly keep reading various things on the internet. My advice to you would be to please stop reading things. When you are invited to apply there will be help and support out there for you.