The official 2024 budget discussion.

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  • Nightcity
    Nightcity Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 2,983 Championing

    I'll send him a copy too then 💜

    I'll edit his to be a little less abrupt to give him a chance

  • Dave1993
    Dave1993 Online Community Member Posts: 163 Empowering

    Doesn't all these WCA reforms still have to pass in parliament though so how are they going to get it out in 2025 can they do it that fast? people are saying april imo this would take years "if" it even does pass @Nightcity

  • Nightcity
    Nightcity Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 2,983 Championing

    everything in the white paper will require legislation and be slow that's why we need to hit them back now.

    as for the WCA changes the tory version already passed I'm unsure if an altered version would need to also go through legislation, certainly hope so.

  • Dave1993
    Dave1993 Online Community Member Posts: 163 Empowering

    torie version really passed? jesus they really don't care do they

  • Nightcity
    Nightcity Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 2,983 Championing

    yes theor version, so if Kendall makes other changes I'm unsure if it has to go back to legislation again, hopefully someone More knowledgeable on laws can help us with that info.

  • Dave1993
    Dave1993 Online Community Member Posts: 163 Empowering

    apparently they have not "fully" passed so that's good news

  • Nightcity
    Nightcity Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 2,983 Championing
  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 1,617 Empowering
    edited November 2024

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  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 554 Pioneering

    I had been on LCWRA for around 12 years and I was reassessed last year out if the blue.

    I remained in the support group.

  • Nightcity
    Nightcity Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 2,983 Championing

    ok so unless they rush it through (which the lords will hopefully play them up) then it is unlikely to start ss early as April after all.

    what a relief.

  • Jenny_Palmer
    Jenny_Palmer Online Community Member Posts: 17 Listener

    Does anyone know if this is true in regards to LCWRA and WCA supposed changes and current claims?

    Source: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9800/#:~:text=The%20Transforming%20Support%20white%20paper,make%20savings%20from%20the%20reforms.

    “….When might changes be introduced?

    The Transforming Support white paper states that primary legislation would be introduced in a new Parliament (after the next general election) “when parliamentary time allows”. 

    After that, the changes would be introduced for new claims only, on a staged, geographical basis. This would begin no earlier than 2026/27, and roll-out would take at least three years. From 2029 at the earliest, existing UC LCWRA claimants would then move on to the new system.”

    I was awarded UC/LCWRA only in March for a minimum of two years and currently get PIP.

    My main worry at the moment is the new white paper detail which says that those on LCWRA will be moved over to what will be known as the ‘Health Group’ and that if you work more than 6 months your LCWRA will be removed 😳 I’ve always worked while on it as my Cerebral Palsy makes it challenging but not impossible currently and I thought you were encouraged to work on it! Even with trying to work I still rely on LCWRA to live so it’s a worry it might get taken away for trying to do what they are asking us all to essentially do - work!!

    If current claimants are protected until 2029 that’s something at least though obviously the whole situation is so stressful and worrying for us all 😞😩🥺


  • emc123
    emc123 Online Community Member Posts: 91 Empowering

    Hi, can you tell us the relevance of November 29th please?

  • whistles
    whistles Online Community Member Posts: 2,005 Championing
  • egister
    egister Posts: 599 Empowering

    I think this is all a consequence of the social model of disability, which gives politicians a tool to discriminate against people with disabilities. And it’s a pity to spend money on disabled people too.

  • egister
    egister Posts: 599 Empowering

    Because the true owners of power do not want to spend money on the state apparatus 😁

  • whistles
    whistles Online Community Member Posts: 2,005 Championing

    Why do we keep needing to be moved onto another "new system" isn't this the reason why it's costly and time consuming?

    They are migrating the IR six legacy benefit claimants onto UC. Then they plan to move those with LCWRA onto something else, even though we are being moved to make things easier 🤷

    By 2029 won't we have had an election?

  • onlymeagain
    onlymeagain Online Community Member Posts: 104 Contributor

    This is what I was first led to believe.
    But raising the amount people on CA can earn will make no difference to most Carers as they are also on Universal Credit and so cannot even earn a £ before money starts to be taken from the benefit.
    And I firmly believe they knew this.

  • JammyWhite
    JammyWhite Online Community Member Posts: 46 Connected

    Wow, are you sure those numbers don’t include state pension DLA recipients? Sounds far higher than I imagined. Do you have a link for the data if you don’t mind? Thanks!

  • Daffodil94
    Daffodil94 Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 55 Empowering

    the BBC have a good podcast. It is called “The Today Podcast”. On 31 October Nick Robinson interviewed Rachel Reeves about her budget and this was followed by an analysis by Nick and his co-host Amos Rajan. It is available on BBC Sounds. I hope this helps to explain a bit about the budget and to allay some fears.