Upcoming changes to benefits
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As an old timer, when my PIP was upped, I felt as 'flush' as I was when first awarded in 2009. That shows how payments have been eroded, and only had a month of experiencing that before UC transition. I hope the situation doesn't result in infighting in terms of 'i'm more poorly than you.' From my understanding, the mental health services are awful, I had a taste of them as you imagine from my circumstances and they were mostly crp 20 years ago, to push people off in genuine distress without a treatment is just outright inhumane.
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Sorry I don't really know anything about universal credit because I am on contribution based esa and I don't qualify for it.
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My hubby is in the ESA support group moved from incapacity benefit in 2013 had an assessment but hadn't had one since. We have just had the migration letter to transfer to UC 😭
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Not many of them lack empathy.
I worked on wards in the nhs for many years before I had to take early ill health retirement.
Very sorry you experienced that. X
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Its not claimants pitting against each other or thinking any of us are more deserving than others, it stupid selfish multi million heir politicians who have no idea how it is to live even one day in our shoes.
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I can’t remember the last time a thread on scope grew 20-25 pages in one day
My gut is telling me to take a 2-3 day break from the forum as it’s going to be total chaos and I wouldn’t be surprised if this thread hits 120+ total pages and there’s bound to be a lot of misunderstandings
I’m going to take time reading the official green paper and I’ll wait for the explanation articles from the benefits&work site and disability news service, etc……. (I’m not going to relay on far right media such as the daily mail or even the bbc as the majority of mainline media don’t understand how incapacity benefits actually work and will go after sensationalist headlines - though itv journalists are actually being pretty balanced)
I don’t know whether we’ll know whether this current storm will blow out quickly or turn into a tsunami untill this weekend earliest (or slow down then explode after reeves spring statement when figures and accounting details for all this may be released)
I honestly have no clue what the next chapter to all this will contain
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Has anybody seen Andrew Marr on LBC tonight ? There is a political journalist named Natasha clark about 49mins plus into the programme saying there isn't any form of cuts to pip at all. Have I misunderstood her? What are your thoughts I keep going over it and watching it again and again.
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I’ve had experience of it for four different family members even on the children’s ward . Not day surgery, I’ve had wonderful nurses looking after me there . Recently I had a procedure and they were amazing. It’s always been on the wards that for some reason there’s lack of caring . But obviously it’s not all but a few bad apples and no offence was meant.
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I’m very scared but hoping it won’t be as bad as expected
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I think everyone on here has been very supportive of each other. You’ve all kept me sane these last feed days . Hopefully tmrw won’t be as bad as we were expecting and we can relax a bit 🤞🙏
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maybe she meant the pip freeze ?
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No she definitely said no cuts to pip
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if it has just been rumors though why has labour ministers not shot them down as not factual and instead borderline confirm the rumours are along the correct line?
This last week has been hugely damaging to labour and will have lost them a number of voters they have no chance getting back - why allow that damage to continue if people are getting upset with policy that may be proven to be mostly fictional tomorrow
I honestly think the itv leaks from 10 days back were pretty accurate - what I don’t know are if any edits have benn made to the green paper doc since (prehaps the final version is still being worked on by treasury & dwp at this late hr?)
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maybe they aren’t changing the criteria ? That would be good news
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Only time will tell. My stomach is turmoil just thinking about it. I'm trying to sleep but just can't. I'm dreading tomorrow.
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But even more damaging if they actually go ahead with the changes . They’ve never confirmed anything and MPs who were summoned to the meetings said they weren’t told anything. Even streeting denied knowing their plans . The leaks must of been discussed at the meeting surely ?
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Oh I didn't take any offense.
I'm just so sorry that you experienced that. X
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Good night all.
I hope you manage to get some sleep. X
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it’s just life isn’t ? I’ve been in day surgery and had wonderful care and laughed with my nurse all day . My most recent experience was amazing and certainly not the broken NHS I read about in msm.
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My degree was in MA Economics, and I thought this before any head bangs. It comes down to fractional reserve banking, that allows multi billionaires to control the economy by printing money based on few real assets in their favour, ie they can loan £98 based on a £2 deposit (there's no limit anymore I think) and then be able to print more funny money to buy people's assets on the cheap when the poor default. Only 5% of the UK is owned by private housing, most is owned by the government and gentry. The people in government may go in there with good intentions, but the high life and rich peoples bubbles turn them as bad. An MP in my city told officials she had a quote a 'fairly basic level of subsistence' according to The Telegraph. The way the benefits bill has rocketed shows something is not right, but until they identify and address the government has no right just to ad hoc attack and reduce the support. I also do think there's an issue with how mental is addressed in terms of benefits and treatment. Straight after my second head injury, I was hallucinating and had very distressing intrusive thoughts / sounds and in a really bad way, and ended up trying about 14 different anti depressants / anti psychotics with no beneficial effect and lots of negative effects… so much so I reckon they made me worse. Standard treatment for this type of thing unfortunately. During this time, I went from posh boy green welly uni to working as a builders mate, which worsened back issues. I have no idea if the suggestion of over awarding mental issues is true, but I had to get to the point of a medically observable neurological issues over time to get a proper award, on top of not claiming for 9 years as said, so something is very wrong with the rocketing claims in such a short time by my experience. For so many people to suddenly to become ill in such a short space of time is statistically odd.
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