The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)
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They said its going through and thier not changing it can you challenge primary legislation
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hi
My mp is Torsten bell :(
I don’t want to write email as I feel he may get shouty back
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Yes, it can be challenged on human rights law grounds @Catherine21 but that's IF it gets voted into law, which I'm honestly not sure if it will be. There's a lot of unhappy Labour MPs.
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So celebrities have spoken out against it, they said to tax rich companies
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Hi Catherine, gosh this whole shambles of a bleep thing is such a disgrace isn't it ! I feel particularly sad for the young and not so young folk who are suffering from very serious mental health, invisible and undiagnosed conditions, this must be really creating more extreme anxiety and it all boils down to money as always 😡
I got a 10 year award in 2017, I firmly believe it depends on the assessor you get, I was lucky in that mine was an experienced Nursing Sister who was kind, considerate and most importantly was very knowledgeable, aware and knew the impact of my severe and progressive conditions on my life without a million questions or trick questions being asked. Not all my assessments have been this way though but I always backed up everything with both, objective ( test results etc ) and subjective ( lived experience ) evidence and have been given the same award each time but with shorter periods in between assessments, plenty of outright untruths documented by them in past ones. My main conditions are not invisible ones, they are ''in your face'' lol she couldn't deny them even if she wanted to. I do believe if the assessors cant physically see something or there are no objective tests for them then they can and do believe everything is just subjective, there lays the problem, in my opinion.
I just wanted to try and explain why I feel I was awarded a10 year award and an up and coming light touch review. I do hope these ridiculous and costly ''improvements'' never see the light of day. Take care Catherine and hang on in there, we have many good folk fighting in our corner 😊
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Thankyou albus
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You could write to members of the Committee for Work and pensions instead. The members are listed here:
https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/164/work-and-pensions-committee/membership/
Write to members as individual MPs rather than to the Committee.
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i doubt being bombarded with emails will stop them from sleeping at night
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im not so sure
Also remember that many of them are newbies
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The government publishing impact assessments for welfare cuts is for the birds.
Impact assessments are produced either by the victim or their representation and not by the defendant.
This should be published either by an organisation or body representing social security payment claimants or an independent third party and not the damn government.
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There are a few who have brought up concerns in private at cabinet before it was announced on Tuesday (Rayner included apparently) but yeah publicly all of cabinet backs it. I guess they have to but it's no less dissapointing to see.
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@luvpink do you have any links where I can see what you said “The Trussell trust and the MS society have expressed their disgust on GB news.”. I’d like to watch what they said?
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hi albus what makes you think it will not be voted into law ? Any positivity I will take
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I don't understand why what they’re proposing has to be all or nothing. This is far from ideal, but, why, if someone isn't found to qualify for PIP under the new scoring system, can’t the recipient still receive the health top up (LCWRA) perhaps based on their PIP score across the board on a sliding scale. To lose both PIP and the LCWRA while disabled is beyond unfair.
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When I'll be filling in it, I'll say, pay them to have an assisted death in Switzerland, and I'll personalise it.
It's insane that people on LCWRA would all of a sudden lose their miserable benefits and would be expected to get a job!
Keir Starmer is an evil of the highest order with profound immorality and wickedness.
I'm glad I didn't vote for his Labour at the last GE a usual Labour voter, as I saw the writing on the wall, and I wasn't wrong.
I rather voted the Greens just for the sake of not voting for anything that has to do with dishonest and cruel Keir Starmer.
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There's a lot of unhappiness from the back benches, so it needs to get voted in first, which may not happen.
But it also may get voted in.
OR it may get amended first, so it may be 2 points needed or something.
So we just have to keep using our voices with our MPs. And might I add, please try to be polite with your MPs, they're not the people who've put forward these plans and it's worth having them on our side.4 -
What do you suggest it's working mps talking about the fear will feel in parliament how many emails thier reciving
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Don't know if this has been posted on here
List of local places taking action on 26th against the cuts .
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they could well be talking about all of you the same way your all talking about them only difference is there on a tad more money than you
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From Rightsnet
18 March 2025, 04:39 pm#10
Sam H
forum memberHealth Projects, North & West Gloucestershire Citizens Advice
Total Posts: 5
Joined: 20 November 2024
I hope to write up proper thoughts at another time, but aside from all the other horribleness with this, what particularly stood out to me was that the “4 points in one activity to qualify for PIP” requirement will be implemented by primary legislation. There is no particular need for this as presently all provisions to do with scoring, etc, are addressed under the regulations and I see no reason why this change could not be implemented through changing the regs. The SSWP’s power to do so is quite clearly stated in s. 80 WRA 2012.
Unless, of course, if the Government thought that this change would be incompatible with the Equality and/or Human Rights Acts, therefore requiring the change to be made by an Act of Parliament to prevent it being struck down by the courts.
In the same vein, the changes to PIP and the WCA are notably not part of the consultation. With regard to those changes, they are only interested in hearing how people who will lose PIP (read: all financial support under the new rules) can best be supported when this happens (but somewhat confusingly the green paper states earlier that TP may be on the table for current claimants).
https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/21015/
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