Scopes reaction to the green paper.

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  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Online Community Member Posts: 706 Championing
    edited March 19

    @Middleton , thanks for your comments . Yes , I just read it after reading your post . She has got a strong opinion .Is she your conservative MP?

    Helen Whately: Welfare Reform Debate

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  • userinfo1
    userinfo1 Online Community Member Posts: 63 Contributor

    Ditto I'm one of the many now considering that my demise and death is now the only way out.

    They have gone too far with things and the sticking plaster one rule for all is the answer.

    Jesus I couldn't get now to a ruddy job centre with my condition never mind them expecting me to do 9 to 5.

    So what else can I do? Except to research and plan my own death and that there agencies will be left to face the consequences of it.

    It is a third world country now... disabled tossed on the streets left to rot with begging bowls. So this is how it's become.

    I'm suspicious they are not telling the British people how bad the country is in. But utter joke to toss disabled people on the streets but can find billions to fund a war in Ukraine that is none of our business.

    Just hoping next few days there will be some light out of the end of this tunnel for me or do mean it considering my time here has gone. My health is bad enough to deal with but THIS has just put the biggest insult to me that there is no hope to carry on. Sick of battling struggling and fighting in my life to survive just to have the rug pulled.

  • charl1234
    charl1234 Online Community Member Posts: 301 Empowering

    I absolutely agree I cannot eat sleep I'm absolutely spiral atm

  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 1,009 Championing

    Possibly, sadly I have already been advised I cant be a plaintiff for the 4 points, as I have a 4 point descriptor, but what I want to challenge is the consultation that was done for PIP, I still havent found a way to contact the people who did the WCA challenge.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 8,552 Championing

    Your right I actually got used ti tories plans can this be legally challenged do we have any hope

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  • Donna_donna
    Donna_donna Online Community Member Posts: 35 Empowering

    I'm really sorry to read you have been made to feel like this.

    You won't be the only one.

    I personally feel alot of what they are doing is pure fear mongering and that in itself serves a purpose.(many purposes)

    I believe that they are using lots of old tricks with all their proposals.

    For example potentially giving people the absolute worst case scenario and then backtracking to some degree on some things, so that everyone breathes a sigh of relief at the changes not being so bad ,and aquiesces,

    A bit like the way the way they hike fuel costs up for a while then drop it down again,but never dropping it back down to where it was before.

    That way everyone thinks they've got a good deal but actually they're still being shafted.

    They seem to enjoy playing these kinds of games with real people's lives especially the ones that can't fight back.

    I hope you can manage to stay strong.x

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  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Online Community Member Posts: 706 Championing

    Absolutely @Passerby, I wish we could all rise together and become a united force(like the transformers)to stand up for our rights and dignity.
    pThis isn’t something that can be tackled alone.

    Have a great day!🤝

  • Bigboblee50
    Bigboblee50 Online Community Member Posts: 41 Contributor

    AbsolAbsolutely terrified as way it reads is everyone on LCWRA is declared fit for work as they axe the group renaming it making it solely accessible via pip assessment

  • Bigboblee50
    Bigboblee50 Online Community Member Posts: 41 Contributor

    They will throw me among many off LCWRA by denying our disabilities by altering the test? Well that's me killing myself then

  • Sofia123
    Sofia123 Online Community Member Posts: 31 Connected

    I agree, but how can we know the Tories won't bring in more Draconian measures? I recall Rishi Sunak was the one pushing for welfare reforms not a while back. The only positives about the Green paper is the fact that disabled people on benefits will be permitted to try work without fear of losing their benefits. That is a good thing especially for people like myself, who have had a mental health condition spanning decades, and are scared about outside prospects in life. However, I am also full time carer to my (schizophrenia) mum so I can't see myself working anytime soon.

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Online Community Member Posts: 706 Championing

    Hi @Sofia123,
    When I spoke about wanting this government to be overthrown by the power of the disabled community, I wasn’t implying that the Tories should return to office. My point was that this government’s approach toward disabled people is deeply harmful, and the only way to stop it is to ensure they never hold power again.
    Since Labour took office in July 2024, they have done nothing but instill fear in disabled people like you and me. Their rhetoric and drastic proposals to cut welfare benefits are not just irrational but fundamentally immoral.
    While I respect your perspective that Labour’s reforms appear to allow disabled people to try working without losing benefits, the reality is much more concerning. The plan to abolish the Work Capability Assessment (WCA) by 2028 will remove LCW and LCWRA protections, meaning that many disabled people who do not qualify for PIP under the stricter four-point daily living criteria will be left without any financial support at all. It’s a calculated move Labour presents it as an opportunity for disabled people to try work, but in reality, many won’t have a safety net if working becomes unsustainable.
    Not everyone will qualify for PIP under these new rules, and even those who currently receive it might not under the revised criteria. This means that only those who secure PIP will be eligible for the Universal Credit health element—everyone else will be left with nothing. The impact on both physical and mental health will be severe, and I completely empathise with those, like yourself, who are already struggling.
    Having worked tirelessly before becoming disabled, I understand how valuable the opportunity to work can be. But true reform should empower disabled people with real choices, not force them into a catch-22 where they either work or starve. Labour’s so-called “reforms” are nothing more than a strategic way to cut costs at the expense of disabled people’s survival.
    There are many more reasons why I believe this government needs to be held accountable, but I hope this explains my stance.
    Take care.

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  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Online Community Member Posts: 706 Championing

    absolutely @Passerby . That’s exactly what I alluded to in my response to @Sofia123

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  • FeistyPigeon
    FeistyPigeon Online Community Member Posts: 353 Empowering

    So sorry your diagnosis littlemystery, but as you've a critical illness, they "might" leave you alone. Don't want to raise your hopes too much in case I'm wrong but they did say they'd leave the most seriously ill alone…