Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)
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Jeremy Corbyn blasts Labour over austerity measures. I wish he'd come back.
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it’s impossible to think they can get away with it and not lose in court or the echr. Both Stu and this other channel creator said they’ll be going against the equality act . Starmer really needs to sack her . I just watched Jeremy Corbyn on sky news and he said Labour MPs have told him they’re not happy. Apparently they’re now talking to him as they’re not happy with the government. The interviewer asked if Keir is a chameleon and he said there’s a few of them in parliament.
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Well said summerlove, these cruel, greedy, uncaring, immoral fools are not Labour.
The Labour Party I was once proud to vote for and be a member of are now long gone, unfortunately.
Just feeling at a loss with it all.....I'm hoping the '**** will ht the fan tomorrow' after Rachel thieves statement, and hoping we have more MP'S and organisations 'coming to our aid', and 'fighting our corner '.
I've been very disappointed with the lack, of outrage/retaliation from MP'S and disability charities.
The only ones who have really stood for us have been, John mcdonnell, Jeremy corbyn and Diane abbot and a couple of others.
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Thanks for this ROSS, will give it a watch. I just wish these 'upset MP'S' would 'speak up'.
We've only had a handful of MP'S speak up, it's disgraceful.
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Clive Lewis MP on Sky News was awesome too 👏
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But they must know they are going against the equality act. It makes me suspicious that they have ways around it all. I just watched the Jeremy Corbyn video too and it is interesting that more Labour MPs are starting to speak to him now after him being such an outcast for so long. I really hope there will be more than we think on our side.
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I dug this out. Angela Raynor helped get the WRAC removed for LCW claimants so be in no doubt she understands all of this in 2025.
Angela Raynor - Commons Shadow Minister (Work and Pensions) Department for Work and Pensions 7 January 2016 - 27 June 2016Angela Raynor - Commons Opposition Whip (Commons ) Whips Office (Commons) 18 September 2015 - 7 January 2016The
Welfare Reform and Work Bill 2015-16had its Third Reading in the House of Lords on 9 February, and the Commons is due to consider Lords amendments on 23 February.The Government suffered a second defeat at Report on 27 January. An amendment tabled by the Crossbencher Lord Low of Dalston and others to retain the Employment and Support Allowance work-related activity component was agreed by 283 votes to 198.
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Same here summerlove, Labour through and through back to my great grandparents, and yes it was Blair who started the ruination.....but omg I can't believe how awful starmer and Co are.
They've ENDED the Labour Party.
Hardly anybody will vote for them in the future.
They really are the 'new nasty party'.
Hopefully the fight back will start tomorrow.
You Take care of yourself summer, we all need to be kind to ourselves.
I just can't believe what's happening.
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yes I thought it was interesting when he said that. It just shows you they’re not happy with Starmer . At the end of the day they’ve said they want £5 billion in cuts which is more than the Tory’s and the judge said it was so much of a cut that is was unlawful. It’s actually unbelievable that they just want to strip pip from a million ppl regardless if they’re disabled or not and attach lcwra to it . So ppl can no longer have a long term condition. I’m just hoping the courts find it all unlawful.
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Well they must be completely removed from reality if they think making people even poorer, more stressed and even possibly losing their homes is going to make them more able to get a job, especially when they're disabled and ill on top!
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Angela Rayner is on a tricky one here I think. She's referencing her own family while defending these cuts. I'm dissapointed as I'd hoped she'd be more horrified at the disastrous set of cruel cuts. Like her unions are.
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I don’t think they care about getting ppl to work. They could start with the healthy job seekers first . It’s not as though they’ve just tightened the criteria a bit , they’ve literally worked out how many ppl they need to get of pip to save the desired amount. They are truly evil.
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Well, this is the thing. It is so ridiculously nonsensical that it does make you wonder if there really is some horrific agenda going on underneath it all. I am trying not to think like that, but I can't help it.
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I will try to explain this again.
It initially be just PIP as the PIP assessment isnt used for LCW.
Automated repeat WCA is going to resume, it might already have resumed, as long as the WCA is still here then the PIP assessment only affects PIP, the plan is to eventually get rid of WCA, and when that happens there will be no more LCW/LCWRA, a health top up will replace it, the health top up will have no automated exemption from work related activities, its purely a financial support mechanism. When this change happens there will only be the PIP assessment.
The health top up will have two ways to be eligible, either via PIP daily living or if you already have LCWRA before 2026, and you then are awarded LCWRA again from a new WCA after that point. I assume if you are made eligible via the second way, then you keep it perpetually without assessments until the next reform or claim closed, a kind of grand fathering.1 -
She will only be told if someone does a successful court challenge, governments have shown time and time again they are prepared to disregard the law, remember innocent until proven guilty. This court challenge only has a few months window, as the paper (the parts with no consultation) will very likely be law by this summer.
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Its more lies really, if it was just about improving work access, they can do that without eligibility and cash cuts. Likewise the more recent interviews have claimed those who cant work will stay protected, clearly requiring 4 points to be eligible for PIP (which will later be a requirement for the health topup also) makes that a lie.
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She's swallowed the KoolAid. By the gallon it appears.
How long do you think she spent, twisting her logic, to reach those "reasons" it was wrong for her mother and son to have received benefits due to illness / disability.
Why don't you hand them back then?
I'd put my house on her son passing whatever the new PIP test is with flying colours, irrespective of his condition/s, despite her assertion all he wants is a chance to work. 🙄
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So there's not enough well paid jobs in the country hiring, many on UC to top up wages. As well as many looking for jobs.
A policy to force those of us on some form of disability benefit to join the queue of those seeking work. Where are these jobs coming from? And who are these employers who will take on people with disabilities?
I have worked several times, and each time, my mental health would crash because I was always on edge, made me suicidal, so I ended up on ESA and PIP.
Could I work from home? Absolutely, but there's no one hiring, I want to get out of the nightmare of constantly having to justify my disability.
But you know, it's okay for MPs to get free things, and a pay rise.
For the few, not the many.
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@Summerlove , you are absolutely correct. It’s good to see someone who’s sitting up in parliament truly cares for disabled people and condones the actions of their own party members. I still cannot believe for a mere sake of £6billion govt is prepared to eat off a dead person’s plate. I will surely look out for posts from secretsquirrel . Be blessed too 🤝
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