Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)
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From an earlier DWP Impact Statement..
Title: The Employment and Support Allowance( Limited Capability for Work and Limited Capability for Work-Related Activity) (Amendment) Regulations 2011: Impact Assessment (IA)IA No: Date: 07/12/2010
A department-led review of the WCA identified a number of ways in which the WCA should be changed to make it a fairer and more accurate reflection of capability for work. As such, it is necessary to revise the WCA, as set out in the Employment and Support Allowance Regulations 2008 to give effect to these recommendations.
5. The main groups affected by these changes are:
− Individuals making new claims to ESA;
− Existing recipients of ESA (when they come up for repeat assessments). ESA is intended to be a temporary benefit for most customers. When the WCA is conducted, a health professional will advise on when they expect the individual’s condition to have improved or an individual to have adapted to their condition to the point where a return to work may be considered. This is used to advise the time at which they should have a repeat assessment. Most people are expected to have returned to being fit for work and moved off ESA within two years; and
− Existing recipients of incapacity benefits who will be reassessed using the WCA to see if they are eligible for ESA.
6. The main effect of the revised WCA is on physical function relating to better accounting for how an individual has adapted to their disability or condition. This means that where an individual has adapted to their condition the assessment will take account of this. For example, an individual may no longer be entitled to ESA if they cannot walk but can successfully use a manual wheelchair to mobilise. This is expected to increase the numbers of customers assessed as capable of work.
7. There has also been a widening of the ESA Support Group criteria mainly in mental function following the identification of areas where individuals might face severe functional limitation, specifically relating to:
− Receptive communication (currently only expressive/outgoing problems in the support group);
− Awareness of hazards;
− Coping with change;
− Coping with social engagement; and
− Appropriateness of behaviour with other people.
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I'm wondering how many MPs are active with their opposing, I hope all of them are interacting with those contacting them.
Sadly, my local Labour MP supports them and was proposing these sorts of cuts and rules back in 2013.
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There likely has been overdiagnosis in certain situations
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I know the previous government limited ESA (CB) based to one year if you weren't put into the support group.
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Or, perhaps, previously, there likely has been under-diagnosis in certain situations?
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True. I became physically disabled as a child. I was an adult before I was diagnosed.
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I found an excellent video ironically it was nothing to do with these reforms, but someone asking a LBC legal expert for advice on an employer refusing reasonable adjustments.
Surprise surprise it was revealed HR didnt care, and refused all requests, he was asked to prove disability after he had supplied proof already from GP and hospital.
Eye opening part was in all of the comments flooded with disabled workers have similar issues with their employers, many of them had lost their job because of it.
So DWP where are all these disabled friendly employers?
Sent the video link to my MP who is part of the DWP crew.4 -
OK is this the new criteria does that mean existing claimants be reassessed by ub50 form I think that's what call it I mean will the form be the same so what thier saying is after two years you should be better I understand that I know I can't o
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Yes I agree and alot of people don't go to doctors for years mine was always anxiety depression but was many other things that took years to get diagnosed
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Oh OK I'm confused I thought if on substantial risk on esa would need need assessment as substantial risk diffrent on uc ? Oh if they haven't taken it that's brilliant so confusing unforgivable what they are doing to us all unforgivable
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I fill application form for DPAC they haven't charges me ?
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I'm a member of DPAC. 😊
At the top of the home page, click Join. I know you've already joined but, as you will see under Yearly Subs they ask you to pay a £2.00 (for unwaged) subscription annually. They then ask you to press the Donate button on the right to pay it.
I hope that will help you. 👍
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In what specifically?.. are you denying some people abuse the system?
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No they don't - the only address available is their MP address
I have asked my Lib Dem MP to forward my email on to them !
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Thank u for your help as always. I donated £10. Haven't heard anything back from them. I hope I'm on there mailing list.😀
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as far as i know they have not took the substantial risk away honestly these reforms are not that bad imo i was thinking they we're going to be FAAAAAAAAR worse the only thing that i am going to be effected by is i wont get a rise every year on LCWRA group till 2030? the welfare system NEEDS to be reformed and this is probs the best possible reform we could hope for
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How do you know your be on lwcra till 2030 pls
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I don't deny anything. I accept that in any system there will be cheats, it's human nature.
However, what you said is there are over diagnoses in certain circumstances. Who do you believe is involved in this? Medics? DWP Assessors?
You said in certain circumstances, this over diagnosis occurs, as did I regarding previous under diagnosis.
So, I'd start with previous under diagnosis of, say, Autism or Dyslexia. It's clear, to me at least, and there were children in my classes at school who were let down as no one looked beyond their "lack of intelligence" or "weirdness".
Or my father in law suffering years of undiagnosed agony/fatigue from what would now most likely be recognised as Fibromyalga or CPS and treated accordingly.
Care to share which diagnoses you've decided are over diagnosed by scammers and/or nscrupulous medics?
I'm genuinely interested in which conditions and which medics you believe are involved in this. Not least to see if you have some useful research or insight to back up your assertion of over diagnosis which, I believe, is very different to an individual scamming the system.
To repeat, I am genuinely interested to hear what conditions and also the evidence, research, experience or unique insight that supports your assertion.
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That’s such an ‘I’m alright Jack ‘ comment, Dave? Read it back. There are people on this forum who are going to lose half their income.. I’m glad you’re okay but you’ve no way of knowing that you’ll still be on LCWRA until 2030? Bit of empathy might help…
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