Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)
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Maybe they will lose their seats, but with their fat contacts book, and ex member's pass, they will be welcomed with open arms by the private sector.
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@idk said:
"I have worked several times, and each time, my mental health would crash because I was always on edge, made me suicidal, so I ended up on ESA and PIP."
Me too. The covert and overt bullying by colleagues is what saw my final collapse after 40+ years of "earning my keep".
It's all fine and well Kendall, Reeves, Rayner et al pontificating about employers/reasonable adjustments etc. but my experience is the employers are not the problem.
Colleagues who greatly resented any reasonable adjustments would not take their resentment / jealousy up with the manager/employer. They expressed their resentment cattily, bitchily and humiliatingly directly to me, or in my direction whilst pretending it was a "general" discussion.
I hope your ESA is not New Style because it would appear those of us on that, without UC, are being sacrificed first. 😕
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I always worked with people who seemed pleasent, and nice, but the wiring in my head tells me they are all lying, and judging, which makes working with people difficult.
Working from home would be ideal for me, but there's an obsession with getting people into offices, which I just can't do.
I was on legacy ESA, and got migrated to UC, which was a smooth process for me. The issue with legacy ESA is that we got ignored for the £20 uplift during COVID I think it was.
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I know what you mean . I’m trying not to panic as Sunak put my conditions into a set back . I was just getting better when Labour got in and I guessed there were going after us early on. It just doesn’t make sense how they’re trying to cut back further than anyone has tried before and they’ve failed.
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@idk ,Sounds like your wiring in your head is 100% spot on✅
Best Wishes!
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I really hope the activists such as Ellen get something ready in time . It happened for the Tory green paper. From what I’ve watched in YouTube things are happening so fingers crossed as this is unbelievable. Apparently the ECHR are also looking into this . From what I’ve watched ppl who are benefiting from advisors and ex dwp reckon it’s discrimination regarding the 18-24 years not able to claim and the 4 points rule.
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BBC News website now leading with the story about even more welfare cuts to be announced on Wednesday.
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The thing is, they didn't win by a landslide. The Tory vote collapsed, and first past the post did what it does.
I seem to recall that Corbyn in 2017, he actually got more votes than Starmer did in 2024.
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Labour - the gift that keeps on giving! We are collateral damage of course…
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Ranald, I was medically retired from my job and I was quite unwell from all the stress I’d gone through with office bitching and backstabbing. I didn’t get any universal credit for 8 months and they didn’t tell me about legacy benefits. I, had to go in for weekly job coach meetings, for months as they took 1 1/2 years to give me LCWRA…..They kept trying to get me to go to a puzzle group. One day I barfed all over their carpet and I was on phone interviews after that….
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That sounds a bit Daniel Blake. Not very dignified, eh ? I'm sorry to hear about your experiences at the Jobcentre.
Some young laddie asking me to re-write a CV with 15 year employment gap, and possibly mock interviews etc. That would be a complete farce. We shall just have to wait and see what develops!
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More cuts!
And there will be more as time goes by cause the economy will worsen
I hope charities challenge ALL these changes proposed.
Getting rid of ESA CB it’s a big loss for the welfare state.
In other European countries if you’ve become too ill to work, and won’t be able to do so in the future, you are entitled to a significant life time pension till your death.
(If you improve and can work, you can do so, just tell them so).
Their award is much more than a few hundred quid a month, it’s like a few thousand a month depending on your contributions.
Regardless of savings etc
IMO that’s the way to look at it.
Our benefit awards are a pittance.
I hope these charities that fight in the name of the disabled community take this into account and legally fight to abolish this unemployment insurance, cause this change as the legal procedure is set up, can be challenged in court. Letting it go unchallenged would be a terrible mistake for the ill and disabled community.These charities want changes and higher benefits for everyone in need (which the different governments aren’t willing to give). However very little or no mention of this new proposal insurance employment from them.
This benefit ESA CB it’s something that we already have, it would be a major blow for our welfare state to lose it.
Finally, having seen the inner workings, corruption at work from different Unions (which was a big blow for me), I have to question these charities motivations including Scope. Only time will tell if they are really on the disabled community side.
Unfairness it’s always something worth fighting for regardless of the consequences.
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just seen the news, what a country we live in, hate this place. Can’t describe how I’m feeling, sick to my stomach.
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Hi just make a new thread with whatever heading you wish related to your subject. X
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And what a waste of money.
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It's terrifying. I ask myself just how much harder they can hit us but I feel that they'll just continue this torture until a future government is prepared to raise taxes. The cuts so far will impact on the NHS and councils massively.
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I've just been reading about a further £500m proposed cuts to Social Security, as there is still a £1.6bn 'shortfall', to meet the £5bn target. (Links don't work for me on here, sorry).
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/mar/25/chancellor-to-increase-defence-spending-by-22bn-to-secure-britains-future
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"Ms Reeves is now expected to announce that universal credit (UC) incapacity benefits for new claimants, which were halved under the original plan, will also be frozen until 2030 rather than rising in line with inflation.
As originally reported by The Times, there will also be a small reduction in the basic rate of UC in 2029, with the new measures expected to raise £500m."0 -
I bet Kendall will be happy her colleague is making our lives even more miserable, they are deplorable excuses for humans
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I really don't think they derive any enjoyment out of all this, really I don't. That doesn't mean I approve of hitting the disabled to meet targets.
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