Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)

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  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 873 Trailblazing

    Just seen on gmb news there cutting welfare some more today. There talking to the defense sectary .

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 695 Empowering

    I think it shows how they've got no moral fibre whatsoever. Sadly, I think we'll see that the back benchers have no backbone.

    I often think I've got little in the way of courage but I'm wrong, I have. In the 90s I stood up to the new CEO in the boardroom in front of c 30 employees after we'd seen dozens of colleagues frogmarched out of the building by security (40 years service some of them) treated disgustingly, all of us being given a 'pep talk' by the new 'top man' daring to lecture us about how it's necessary bla bla too and about our continued loyalty etc. The word loyalty set me off and I when asked if we had any questions I said loud and clear (I'm like a mouse ordinarily) I do, don't you think our loyalty might depend on how we see our colleagues being treated? He and the other board members were fuming with the finance man uttering some nonsensical answer. Was so pleased to see his ex wife completely wipe the floor with him in the High Courts for c £30million. Anyway, I digress sorry.. sorry, I just cannot abide people with absolutely no moral fibre and who try to ride roughshod over others.

    What we should ALL remember here is that dealing with the illnesses and disabilities that we have, day in, day out, takes courage, in buckets full. So we've still all got that no matter how vulnerable we are made to feel. We can use that to our advantage. I cannot go out to protest but as my lovely dad used to say, 'the pen is mightier than the sword'. I intend to use that ink well and profusely.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 874 Championing

    The OBR say the proposed cuts won't make up the £55bn. £1.6bn still to come, £500m from Social Security.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/mar/25/chancellor-to-increase-defence-spending-by-22bn-to-secure-britains-future

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 873 Trailblazing

    She picks on the vunerable for her failings.

  • apples
    apples Online Community Member Posts: 487 Empowering

    There has to be numerous court cases surely? I wish I was savvy enough to take them to court, this is blatantly wrong on so many levels

    If they stopped the migrant hotels they’d save millions

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 874 Championing

    Blaming desperate people isn't the answer. We mustn't go down that road. HMG have a series of choices, and kicking those at the bottom is one of them. This is on them.

  • Dianaf
    Dianaf Online Community Member Posts: 69 Empowering

    But labour want people to loose carers allowance also that's the whole point. Kill 2 benefits in one go. The cuts will have a domino effect and that's their nasty plan.

  • Bluebell21
    Bluebell21 Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 10,064 Championing

    Rachel Reeves Spring Statement on BBC 2 as part of Politics Live at 12.15 her speech expected to be 12.30.

  • honeyhoney
    honeyhoney Online Community Member Posts: 136 Empowering

    .. in 2016, immigrants from so-called "Eastern Europe" were to blame because they took "very well-paid and lucrative work"… in warehouses, factories, production lines, etc. so they held a referendum.

    In 2025, the disabled are to blame

    In 2035, the pensioners will be to blame.

    Mark my words.

    I am not British but I have lived here for over 20 years and this is my home and that of my children.

    And my heart breaks as this country falls down a slippery slope.

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 695 Empowering

    I hope you don't go. My heart goes 10 to the dozen when i see arguments/too much stress and it's already a very highly stressful time for us all anyway. I just hope everybody just let's it go (not the Community). It'd be nice to be able to all move forward together x

    Ps not trying to offend anyone saying that and I'm not arguing. We all need now, more than ever, to be kind to each other and ourselves.

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 873 Trailblazing

    Not all are desperate, if they were they would settle in Germany, France they are safe country. They come because the government give them everything, plus freebies, free driving lessons, they get 3 meals a day warm hotels. Councils are over stretch, they said its not safe in the areas.so pensioners, farmers disabled get picked on.before you mention farmers are ok, one of my family knows one who committed suicide because of her inheritance tax. Not all pensioners are well off, my sister and brother in law can't get pension credit because they are slightly over.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 874 Championing
    edited March 26

    All that being as it is, do you think grudging migrants is the way forward? I don't believe that it is. Some of what you have described, it sounds like talking points in the Daily Mail etc.

    Do you know that ordinary citizens have to pay 40% Inheritance Tax ( Well, the beneficiaries pay it)? Farmers are being asked to pay 20%, with 10 years to pay.

    Many young people who have been to agricultural college, they can't hope to get into farming with some land owners hoarding so much land.

    There is always another way to look at a situation.

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 873 Trailblazing

    Nothing against Eastern European, my grandfather came from Europe. I have family from other countries, but it's what's happening at the moment, its all men mainly young, hardly any women and children .they have designer clothes, I phones, why chuck papers, I d into the channel

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,753 Championing

    How much more are we meant to take this is definitely an agenda we need hope I know they say echr may be looking into it but even if the find it wrong the government doesn't listen

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,753 Championing

    WWe need some hope is there anything going on to challenge all this people on the edge

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,753 Championing

    Is there anything going on in background for us thier systematically shutting society down for bosses

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,753 Championing

    Someone said freezing new claims money until 2029

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,753 Championing

    I disagree o think they actually get off on it they think we are parasites imagine if they didn't have to pay billions on welfare more money for them gluttony it really is them becoming multi millionaires starmer on worth 7.7 millions noting compared to the rest of them

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,753 Championing

    The thing is we are thier project they want to achieve what the tories didn't starmer would pay billions in court to win as he status would be the one who had balls to do what others couldn't he's the worst person for us disabled the worse I'm scared

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,753 Championing

    I'm not listening cannot take anymore I hope we have charities come out after this and give us some hope 2026 2028 not far away hope your well this morning