Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)
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not at all as Debbie is one of the few good ones and it's a cross party board
with that defeated tone they get away with it. some of us believe in being on their cases daily wearing them down the good ones conscience will prevail.
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We've launched a new inquiry on the Government’s welfare reform proposalsThe inquiry will examine@DWPgovuk's planned changes to disability and health-related benefits, announced by@leicesterlizlast month and are contained in the Pathways to Work Green Paper0 -
Saw this on Dr Jay Watts X page.
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Most people think agoraphobic cannot go out at all. That is simplistic and wrong. People with agoraphobia often leave home in certain limited circumstances. You have bravely cited your own. Perhaps the person of whom you write can only venture out alone without the pressure of people around him.
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absolutely. I've had agoraphobia twice 2005-2009 and 2020-2023 and I could go out in the middle of the night when nobody was around or if I fell straight out the door into my mums car.
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I’m sorry just feel so down about it all.
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no need to apologise completely understandable, sorry If I came across wrong I simply meant they hope people will give up and it's what they want.
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Hi everyone,
I just watched Disability talk with Steve . Apparently the work and pensions committee is launching a benefit inquiry into the proposed benefits cuts .
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not at all as Debbie is one of the few good ones and it's a cross party board
Completely wrong! She's even more insincere than Stephen Timms, the man she replaced.
Was a healthcare professional herself before Work and Pensions. No, not a good one!
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The problem is that, when you start reiterating and validating the idea that 'some people are cheating', you are actually causing harm to disabled people, especially those whose disabilities are less easy to codify in the current system.
The DWP's official stats for fraud in PIP are negligible (0%) and ESA are very low as well. The DWP are not friends to disabled people, and many, many claimants have struggled to prove their claims, gone through tribunals, had issues with assessments and reports…this forum is full of those testimonials. This is good evidence that the DWP is not letting people claim disability benefits or related benefits easily. If even the DWP - who want to monitor our banks for fraud - think there isn't much or even any going on, then it probably isn't.
When disabled people start questioning other disabled people, that's when we lose this fight. It ultimately comes down to - "I know I'm disabled, but I don't know you are, so maybe you're not". Or worse, "My disability affects me like this, but yours affects you differently, so maybe you're not really disabled." These are all ideas floating around at the moment, in the media, on social media, and in comments sections on threads and stories.
This is not a rhetoric we should jump on board with.
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These changes to LCW and LCWRA were planned way back in 2011. The last two welfare reform Acts need to be revisited and understood - the WRA 2012 and the changes to substantial risk rules in 2016.
Those were cross-party agreements! It's a stitch up.
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Good points. I'm not validating it. I am saying some people know how to navigate the point scoring WCA and others don't. It is unfair like that.
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Labour said no more pocket money. These people don't live in the real word most of the little money they give goes to energy bills and council and VAT on goods. They have no idea. They make me laugh, they have no idea at all.
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Our money goes back into the economy while they get pay rise, claim concert tickets and other things while they themselves never pay for it.
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I think it's incredibly naive to believe absolutely no-one is able to cheat the system to obtain disability benefits.
Does anyone else remember the old advert from the 1970s/80s? Tagline: Behind every scheme, there's a schemer ….
That's what I believe, it's in some humans' nature to cheat. Look to tax avoidance, infidelity, draft-dodging in times of war etc. as proof of that.
Does that mean there is wide-spread, systemic abuse of the system as promoted by the right-wing media? I tend to think not.
As mentioned upthread, if you "know" someone is cheating the system, report them. However, the only way you can possibly "know" they are cheating is via access to their application form, their assessment interview, and their life behind closed doors.
If you don't have access to all of those, then you "know" nothing really, don't you?
Cynicism, suspicion, jealousy and bullying are, sadly, also elements of human nature.
It's depressing to see those traits openly aired on a forum such as this. A forum where the majority of contributors are the very ones who are likely to be on the receiving end of such unattractive traits/behaviour from others.
Orwell was right.
Some on this forum appear to be going down the route of some disabilities being more equal than others.
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Thank you! I was exactly going to ask that.
They're worried about rise every year, when the vast majority of people on LCWRA are worried sick, as they would be prone to lose it altogether.
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"The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) has confirmed that 1.8 million people claiming Universal Credit have now been categorised under the Limited Capability for Work-Related Activity (LCWRA) group."
If we add those on LCWRA who are still on ESA, the figure would be bigger than that.
The worst is that all these people are prone to lose their LCWRA all of a sudden once the damn 4 point assessment system gets in place!
People are only worried about PIP, but people who are only on LCWRA/Support Group would be hit the hardest.0 -
Ed Miliband was leading the opposition 2010-2015
Corbyn 2015-2020
Those changes agreed before Corbyn’s time?
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"some disabilities being more equal than others"This is how the government is framing it…😟
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yeah of course , but he's out all day so maybe he's getting better .
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