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  • judie
    judie Community Member Posts: 336 Empowering

    Hi Cath, I'm good thanks. I'm sure the government will link their immoral cuts to anything they think they can get away with. At the moment, disabled people are to blame for everything according to Starmer & Reeves

  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,102 Pioneering

    The government plans to spend £4.5 billion on weapons for Ukraine BUT the country has no steel production? Starmer seems to be planning to send bows and trebuchets to Ukraine? And at the same time they are taking £5 billion from disabled people. It looks like a scam.

    Hahaha(((…

    😓

  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,102 Pioneering
  • bton1968
    bton1968 Community Member Posts: 155 Empowering

    I'm looking forward to the local elections in May …..

    It's looking like Liebour could be in for a severe beating which will lead to discontent in the ranks …

    Bring it on !

  • keira
    keira Community Member Posts: 173 Empowering
    edited April 2025

    Proposed PIP cuts already causing harm to people living with SMI

    Warning: this article includes repeated references to self-harm and suicide

    The proposed changes to the PIP scoring system will affect many claimants living with severe mental illness (SMI) and some have already experienced a deterioration in their health, a Benefits and Work survey suggests.

    What you can do

    If, due to being misled, MPs vote in favour of the Green Paper changes it will mean disaster for large numbers of claimants.  From November 2026 until after the next general election at least 10,000 claimants every month will lose their PIP.  This will include many living with SMI.

    Please draw the attention of your MP to this issue.  

    Ask them to ask the secretary of state for work and pensions to publish a breakdown by health condition detailing how many claimants get the PIP care component without scoring 4 points or higher.

    https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/proposed-pip-cuts-already-causing-harm-to-people-living-with-smi

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    Hi everyone, I haven’t been on here for a few days so don’t know if this has already been posted. There’s an article on the guardian site which says data has been shown to Labour MPs which claims 80 of them risk losing their seat next election due to benefits cuts . Including Wes streeting and Jess Philips . I don’t know how to link it here sorry

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I think we all know they don’t care about us but they do care about their seat in parliament ( gravy train ). I wrote that to Starmer , Reeves , Kendall and Timms and got ignored by them all . I’m sure they’ve had many emails like that . It’s interesting the last part about contacting Starmer to change course but no point in Reeves . I can’t remember it all due to brain fog ( though I only read it a while ago 😂) but they obviously know she doesn’t care .

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I think it will be reform and Tory coalition. Labour are truly awful and in a short space of time have alienated many different groups, it’s hard to see who their voting base will be . I think there’s a lot of people who wish we still had Tory’s as the cuts they were going to make weren’t as bad as labours . Labour seem demented especially Kendall. I’m hoping at some point they oust starmer even if to save their own seats.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,826 Championing
    edited April 2025

    secretsquirrel, "I’m hoping at some point they oust starmer even if to save their own seats."

    Ousting Starmer won't help us. He isn't ex-DWP and I don't believe he knows what his ex-DWP Ministers have been up to for the last 10 years.

    All that the anti-Starmer movement is doing is burying the mischief behind Iain Duncan Smith's earlier reforms which, so far, he's got away with! IDS needs to be called out before it's too late!

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    Hi Catherine I’m ok thanks, how are you ? I’m hoping this all gets watered down or stopped completely 🤞🙏. I called UC this morning as I haven’t received a migration letter. I spoke to a lovely girl who put my mind at rest . She didn’t know much about the green paper changes but I asked her if I would be reassessed as I’ve heard that on YouTube . I’m esa legacy btw. She said as I’m in support group it’ll be a 30 minute filling in info and that’s it. She said we don’t even have enough staff to assess everyone so don’t worry. Apparently they’re getting a lot of worried ppl contacting them after watching YouTube.

  • pinkrose
    pinkrose Community Member Posts: 171 Empowering

    Come On everyone, let's keep the momentum going.

    Keep Emailing MP'S ..and those with local elections next month ,show Labour how you feel.

    Thankyou to all of you on here, you've literally been the ones that have 'kept me going'...much love to you all !!!!!

  • AppleJacks
    AppleJacks Posts: 89 Empowering
  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,826 Championing
    edited April 2025

    But the LibDems supported all those measures in 2010 and saw them legislated for!

    Now they want to reverse those cuts? Do people actually believe this nonsense? I fear some members here do.

  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Community Member Posts: 442 Empowering
  • AppleJacks
    AppleJacks Posts: 89 Empowering
  • Topcat71
    Topcat71 Community Member Posts: 194 Empowering

    I have complained to my MP that no consideration given to the announcement that has caused all this worry and stress for everyone.

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Community Member Posts: 677 Championing

    @Catherine21
    (My views) While the Green Party supports the social model of disability and opposes benefit cuts, this ruthless Labour government raises real fears-will any party truly hold the line, or U-turn like the rest? Honestly, I’m hurting and losing faith in politicians.

    Just heard from Scope that my local MPs didn’t attend the recent parliamentary event-despite my personal emails urging them to back the campaign against benefit cuts. It’s disheartening.

    Right now, resisting these devastating cuts is my focus (as I’ve shared before). We must keep up the momentum. There’s so much power in our voices.

    In solidarity ✊

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Community Member Posts: 677 Championing

    Thanks, @keira

    Great call . I’m really glad to see Benefits and Work have started analysing the vital SMI data from the 550 survey respondents to their “No to 4-point PIP descriptors” campaign.

    It’s encouraging that they’ve published both the Survey analysis and some powerful, real-life testimonials from people with SMI who took part in that survey . These are so important for us to include when communicating with our Local MPs.

    I hadn’t come across that link before, and I found it really eye-opening-especially reading about my own MP, who sadly seems firmly tied to some of Labour’s flawed policy positions. As the link suggests, I also believe that contacting our local MPs directly via their official Parliament email is more impactful and personal than using the generic contact forms provided by organisations. It’s more likely to get their attention.

    Still, it’s vital that we keep the pressure up from all directions to ensure disabled and vulnerable voices are truly heard.Every action counts.

    Thank you again!

    In Solidarity ✊

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,826 Championing

    (Joseph Rowntree Foundation)

    Fourth largest single cut since 2010, largest to disability benefits ever assessed by OBR

    The OBR’s Policy Measures database also looks at individual policies. A £5 billion saving from PIP would be the fourth greatest single working-age social security reducing policy since 2010, only exceeded by changes to overall benefit rates, which changed the way many different types of benefits were increased, or stopped those increases. This would be the biggest reduction affecting only a smaller group of recipients of a specific benefit, in this case disabled people, meaning the loss per person affected would be greater than these earlier policies. The chart below shows the 12 individual policies that save more than £1.5 billion at the end of the forecast window (in 2025/26 prices). Our analysis shows that the proposed (and subsequently reversed) PIP changes Iain Duncan Smith resigned over in 2016 were a third the size of the rumoured current PIP cuts.

    IDS apparently resigned over PIP cuts in 2016.

    That meant he evaded scrutiny of the brutal cuts he had already prepared for disabled claimants in his 'amended' ESA 2011 regulations and his 2012 Welfare Reform Act to be introduced under the 2016 Welfare Reform and Work Act.

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