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  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,660 Championing

    MW, it's clear to me that we're talking about different aspects of those 2011 'amendments'!

    I'm referring to a sleight of hand which Chris Grayling had the sense to remove himself from, after signing off that policy. Nobody has ever challenged this and it's why IDS is back for more of the same only much, much worse.

    So, it is vital that we catch up with something we all missed back then, yes!!

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,466 Championing

    Have you realised that it is possible for someone to be currently receiving enhanced PIP, from 3 points per activity, but lose entitlement completely due to the new 4 point rule ?

    This proves that the new rule is totally unfair and cannot be allowed to be brought in.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,466 Championing
    edited April 2025

    Wow - what a superb letter

    Also see https://silentmovieblog.wordpress.com/2025/03/19/the-destruction-of-disabled-lives-liz-kendalls-benefit-cuts/

    It says everything that many of us here feel about the situation

    The sad thing is that Timms may read it but it will make absolutely no difference in what happens…

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,436 Championing
  • Mysteriouskitten
    Mysteriouskitten Community Member Posts: 40 Empowering

    From DPAC (ELLEN CLIFFORD)

    https://www.facebook.com/share/195cQwadFd/

  • Topcat71
    Topcat71 Community Member Posts: 194 Empowering

    After Christmas I fear the countdown as more information on the changes will come. There is no doubt that something will change and we can only hope that each of us have the strength to get through all this . It really helps being here as the support is fantastic.

  • Topcat71
    Topcat71 Community Member Posts: 194 Empowering

    Since the announcement I been very unwell I had a virus or viruses..I think I got so down with worry it made me ill .I have a pip decision under review and I fear that be delayed again til Nov 2026. My health conditions are getting worse and as much as I try to be positive I am now starting to accept I could lose my home if all benefits stop. I work 12 hours a week now and in more pain than I was 3 months ago and morphine helps but I still feel the pain in my back and knees. Reading through a pip assessment a few years back it clearly states that I would not be awarded no more than standard rate no mobility because of my work as a customer assistant. It clearly states the assessor feels my job contradicts my claim. So this I feel be the problem that if anyone with a disability takes up offer if work they be treated like me and told where you can do that. It puts me off working because it goes against me but I still want to do this while I can manage in some small way.

  • Urbenmyth
    Urbenmyth Community Member Posts: 15 Contributor

    Hey, one quick question - under the Tories, the DWP were planning on changing the questions for the WCA to make it harder to get from this year, right? Is that still happening? I can't find any clear answers either way.

  • Topcat71
    Topcat71 Community Member Posts: 194 Empowering

    "Was the announcement just for the headlines to appeal to those who think disabled people are living off the state? How can the Prime Minister, who talks so deeply of his mother's health conditions, and the Deputy Prime Minister, whose family was on benefits, be so two-faced? I work 12 hours a week, and at work I hear people talk, saying things like, 'It's about time they got them to work and stopped scrounging.' I just sit there and think this is what it's about: fueling people's anger and hate towards disabled people. Disabled people are not going to be supported in jobs, and this 'try before you take the job' idea is just an unrealistic concept dreamt up by people who have never had a disability or understood disability."

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,660 Championing
    edited April 2025

    MW, I have not once mentioned PIP because this isn't about PIP!

    I'm talking about ESA specifically and working-age benefits. It's critical to understand what he did in 2011, yes, or I wouldn't be doing this to myself - trying to explain why it matters all these years later and it does!

    It matters that under UC, we become 'disabled job-seekers'. It matters that Contribution-based benefits will fold. All of this written into the 2012 Welfare Reform Act.

    When you've re-examined those 2011 'amended' ESA regulations, come back and tell me I'm wrong. But you clearly haven't!

    What the Tories did (with help) between 2010 and 2015 to trash the protections written into the Welfare Reform Act 2007 still needs to be understood and challenged!

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,660 Championing


    worried33
     Online Community Member Posts: 894 Championing12:28AM

    Where is the chart? we dont see it, please provide a link if there is a chart there.

    worried, thank you. I'm not good with links so just type in JRF and 2010. It came up for me.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,660 Championing

    worried, his Party isn't in power but he still rules the roost. Labour's ex-W&P Ministers are desperate to bury his deception under this confected chaos and so far, it seems to be working.

  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Community Member Posts: 442 Empowering

    Hi , have you got the Reform proposal form please ?

  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Community Member Posts: 442 Empowering

    We can try to be strong , but when we lose everything which would be in my case by my home because if i lose pip carers etc , that's it we will be out on the street .

  • Topcat71
    Topcat71 Community Member Posts: 194 Empowering

    It is really depressing and I fear that these changes are going to be pushed through. All parties seem to be in agreement.

  • bton1968
    bton1968 Community Member Posts: 156 Empowering

    it's not looking good in my opinion …..

    hopefully as the results come in from the local elections that'll cause unrest within labour as the votes will speak volumes about their policies and maybe just maybe a rethink my arise or even a rebellion against Starmer & Co …

    also i do believe legal challenges will be made but will these be made in time to stop the roll out of said cuts ?

  • luvpink
    luvpink Community Member Posts: 4,560 Championing
  • Topcat71
    Topcat71 Community Member Posts: 194 Empowering

    I have a few questions

    Will we be able to see the outcome from the feedback given to the green paper and individual responses by email?

    Am I right in thinking the King has to sign this off to be law if so should I be writing to the king?

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