New Green Paper Discussion - now includes accessible formats and consultation event sign up links!
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Because she's being controlled , reading from a script, being made a fool like starmer is too.
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exactly that 100%. I watched Starmer being interviewed by journalists on YouTube and you could clearly see him trying to remember the answer.
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thank you . I thought this but the person is apparently ex dwp so not sure how she got her information wrong
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Reform the recent changes to disability benefits by Lynda Denman
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It definitely seems like there’s been a serious mix-up in the discussion you watched.
According to the Green Paper proposals, the Work Capability Assessment (WCA) would be abolished-meaning there would no longer be LCW or LCWRA under the proposed changes.So yes, it does seem like the video may have spread some misinformation, which only adds to the confusion and distress already being felt by so many disabled and vulnerable people.
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Haha, the trio-Starmer, Kendall, and Reeves really don’t seem to like being questioned, do they? Sometimes it’s hard not to notice their faces change colour under pressure!
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Truly awesome post, my friend-that’s exactly who we are. Such an inspiring post! 👏👏
We can get this changed in our favour.
We’ve faced so many battles before, and one thing’s for sure… we never give up!✌️
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I think they thought there’d be no fight back perhaps. And Timms seems to spend his time hiding in shame
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Very true -I’m 100% with both your comments!
We’re all in this together, and I truly believe that if we oppose these proposals head-on through the live consultation (email or link), we can win this battle.
But we must do it in unity.
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While the government has clearly got it wrong, it’s possible that anyone within the government -including those currently or previously in the DWP might also get it wrong, perhaps based on information from their colleagues ? (Just my theory.)
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I can’t see how basically leaving sick and disabled people penniless can be legal especially as the Tory paper was found to be unlawful and it wasn’t as bad as this . At the bottom of the dwp letters it says this is the amount the law said you need to live on, so how can they say actually you can now live on fresh air alone
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As usual all the in person events are in cities that are convenient for the govt to get representatives to but not so easy for people living in the most of the rest of the country, especially those with disabilities.
And online events are never much good…very difficult to balance.0 -
she said the 4 points affecting pip has come out in the last 12 hours , I think that’s right ( brain fog) . She’s the woman who took dwp to court when she worked there so I don’t know how she got this wrong . I think it’s all so confusing because they haven’t worked out their own plans yet and seem to be making it up as they go along
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Add me too.Im nearly 64, should have retired at 60. Started full time work still 15 in 1977. Just started on the WCA journey. Sent off UC50 form last week so still early days for me, yet to have assesment with the hope of getting LRWCA. Not tried for pip yet. Still have another 3 and a bit years till state pension at age 67. These extra 7 years, moving the goal posts and age related health issues makes it hard for this age group. I guess the government hope we just drop dead so they don't have to pay state pension/pension credit. I live alone and have no help. This delay in being able to retire and ongoing and worsening conditions (although I've mostly worked all these years) is having a negative impact on me. It is all planned;!!!
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I’ve added the link for you:
People with Disabilities: Access to Services" motion raised by I think Baroness Hughes of Stretford..
I have to say, Santosha, I agree with you-it is a long read, but it’s so vital to our ongoing discussions. Many of the issues debated that day are deeply relevant to our current fight for rights. I couldn’t get through the entire document, but I did read some of the powerful,inspiring and touching narratives and wanted to share the final paragraph, which carries a truly empowering message:
“Overall, the key message raised in my opening speech and by so many noble Lords is that disabled people must be at the heart of policy and implementation. “Inclusion by design and accessible by all” should be the watchwords. This debate has demonstrated, if anybody needs evidence, the profound difference that it makes to have the voice of disabled people with lived experience in the room, and its benefit.”
(All credits to @santosha12👏👏)1 -
@secretsquirrel1, The proposals not legal at all, and that’s exactly why we must keep fighting to stop these proposals from moving forward. We each need to oppose them directly by responding to the Green Paper consultation. It’s a deeply flawed proposal, designed purely to cut government costs by slashing welfare benefits that are rightfully meant for disabled and vulnerable people.
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The PIP 4-point daily living criteria has been known since Liz Kendall delivered her Ministerial Foreword in Parliament in March (sorry, I don’t remember the exact date). The documents were then uploaded to the official GOV.UK website and the Scope Announcement page later that day.
I think the DWP lady might have been referring to the accessible formats/live consultation events that were published on 7th April ?
Best Wishes!
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Thank you so very much for taking your time to attach the link @noonebelieves I'm really grateful (and need to learn how to do it!). I am sure there were very significant points about people with learning disabilities, autism and mental health (I do hope I've not imagined that, I'm sure I've not). I'm going to make it my priority to read it thoroughly this week and make notes as I'll write to the Baroness and Sir Michael Marmot of the Institute of Health Equity very soon. I've read most of Sir Michael's previous work and he's a very highly respected figure.
I would imagine he would concur that whilst there should be access and equality for disabled people to be able to work (and of course I shouldn't put words in his mouth 🫠) I can only imagine what he thinks of the government plans given his excellent work spanning years on inequity, poverty and their links to poorer health and mortality.
Sir Michael only came to my mind as I was reading a George Orwell 1937 book, the road to Wigan pier, (recommended by @Ranald 👍) and the abject poverty he writes of but more specifically, the results on lives of unemployment which were wretched (my word not his) I kept feeling that you could change the word unemployment for disabled/sick and it all can be related to today nearly 90 years later.
Anyway, I digress! I do wish you a full recovery from your accident, full healing and as restful a week as is possible especially after your long wait in A and E. I fractured my wrist once just pulling a weed out and although it was funny (the reason) the pain was definitely not so funny. Take good care too and thanks again for the link 🙏 .
PS I have an ink plan with HP fir my printer just changed subscription from 1.99 a month for c 30 pages to 11.99 for I think 300 pages as I need to be able to print the green paper and the attached link above. You don't need to know that sorry gone off on my tangent 🤣
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@A_Z1961 , I’m truly sorry to hear about your situation, and I really hope you get your WCA assessment date and decision soon.
I completely understand your frustration. I sent my UC50 in March as well and am still waiting for an assessment date .In my last meeting ,my work coach at JC mentioned that a UC113 had been sent to my GP, but I haven’t seen it uploaded to my GP records either. Hang in there – I know it’s tough, but we can turn this around. There’s so much hope, and at the end of the day, your life, like all of ours, truly matters.
We are all in this together, and we’ll keep supporting each other through this journey!1 -
Thank you for the link @MW123 - I've just been catching up on this Commons Liason Committee. Sarah Owen's comments & Keir Starmer's response can be seen here:
You said,
''After hearing Keir Starmer try to respond to questions on the subject today, it’s clear that these policies have not been fully thought through, as he struggled to answer straightforward, relevant questions when asked.''
My MP appears to agree with you, as in a letter I received yesterday he said,
''There is little evidence that the Government's decisions will improve security for the genuinely vulnerable or offer support for those trapped by welfare get into good jobs. More is needed to be done to reform our welfare system and get people back into work, however, this has to happen in a thought out, consulted and open way.''
However, the disabled community is not being consulted on the whole in a meaningful (nor transparent) way, as the Green paper says the Govt is not consulting on their proposals to abolish the WCA, nor on that to add the extra 4 points conditionality for at least one activity for the daily living component of PIP, tho they say they want to hear from disabled people & disability charities!
The knock on effect about this extra PIP conditionality with the daily living component is also illustrated by @noonebelieves 's link to Carers UK - thank you too for the link.
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