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@Ranald I really hope you're right, none of us want to see that kind of outcome.
I have great respect for the Benefits and Work forum and the invaluable work they do, but I think presenting this data at this stage might be a bit premature. While the report offers a helpful early overview, it should be approached with caution until more concrete details are released by the government. The situation remains fluid, and there’s still much uncertainty about how the proposed changes will unfold and which groups will be most affected.
As @WhatThe has rightly highlighted, the 2011 changes became a blueprint for later reforms. Her point about how quickly policy can change is important, and while some of the current proposals may seem unlikely, it’s a reminder that we must stay alert. Hopefully, this time the arguments against will be listened to before irreversible steps are taken.
Politicians may shift the goalposts, but collective pressure through protests, petitions, lobbying MP's and Ministers and persistence can force them to make concessions or abandon certain reforms. Stay vocal, stay organised, and always remember, your dignity and health are non-negotiable.
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Thats good write everything add more to questions if you have to get your husband or family to write the support they give you how your meds effect you I remember you saying you have aids but cannot use them without support and give the reason why you can't use them alone says don't send doctors letter I always do I requested sars form from doctors went back two years highlighted my diagnosis and consultations I had with doctor about my disabilities don't be afraid you deserve pip goodluck
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I have read that you will be reassessed whem your award runs out but yes will people automatically be put on health element who knows it just needs to stop I read labour are listening to no one but I did Google is anyone taking labour to court over pip reform and it said yes if you Google your see what it says also what about people who are not on pip really need to apply now
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Ps where's the man power to do reassessments in 2028 will take a while for it to roll out surly and you will be getting new claimants all the time none of this thought out at all look at the back logs already
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I cant see how they would get away with this as I wrote to passerby I know Google not the best place for information but I did Google about anyone taking labour to court said yes I think there alot going on in background and I'm so angry my area is not allowed to vote this year !! I've emailed alot of people asking where is millions of disabled people going to stay if this happens I said labour will turn this country into a third world country through gluttony
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Sorry I don't understand so the other group what does that mean it's acceptable now or acceptable under 4 point rule
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Where will Labour go? Do you think petitions will hold sway?
During the coalition years, the media was always telling us that the coalition government would collapse, never last 5 years etc. All hot air and intrigue.
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OBV, "( to those I have not asked, can I quote with names missing, comments made here of your experiences to a court, if I have not already asked?)"
I'm willing to do whatever it takes so yes, if anything I've said helps your case!
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They can't get away with this. Their so-called reform is almost abolition of sickness and disability benefits, as, according to the latest data, 87% of claimants would fail the new PIP assessment for the daily living component, which also extends to people on LCWRA, paving the way for homelessness and destitution.
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This Labour clowns are backed by people like T. Blair, G. Brown, D. Blunkett, Alan Milburn etc., behind the curtain. In addition, this Labour is full of bootlicking newbies who only care about their jobs.
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@charlie72 and @Catherine21 I saw my GP and she says usual procedure is pip contact Dr's but she will write a letter to send when I get the form to fill in but how the message reads is that they assess what was in claim and then drag me in if need be without having a form to fill in. Is this correct? We all worry about what's to come. ,🙏
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I'm really starting to understand pip is not a disability benefit so what will protect us ?
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I'm in the process of re-assessment , just got the form yesterday . Phoned MacMillan who helped me fill it in . I hate that they contact my GP , he is horrible , but he has to be honest and tell them my issues . So will send it first class Tuesday to be signed for, not worth sending it today or Saturday as it is bank holiday weekend , I would rather send it registered then I know they have received it .
Do we get another assessment via phone with re-assessment ? I had a paper assessment last time and got a phone call asking questions to try and catch me out , it is brutal and caused me to have panic attacks and I never slept for days worrying .
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My MP is new since the boundary changes last year. As far as I can tell she hasn't raised her voice against the proposed cuts and so-called reforms. I fear she won't, and won't be persuaded to. Nevertheless I want to contact her and give her no option but to look at the facts, as opposed to just getting a reply where she sings from the Green Paper hymn sheet.
Does anyone know if there's a document going around, or a webpage, that concisely breaks down and lists the ACTUAL impacts of the proposed cuts rather than the conveniently sanitized version most politicians seem to be reading? I would like to send it with a covering letter that talks about how the cuts will affect me and my situation. In fact, I'm going to try and get a face to face appointment with her at her surgery (assuming she even runs one occasionally). I'll present my letter and the list of facts to her after I've asked her what she intends to do about these acts of fiscal terrorism.
I'm also wondering if it's possible to do a FOI request for an estimate of the number of her constituents currently in receipt of PIP, as well as those on UC in the LCWRA group. I want to hear her defend her support for the cuts when confronted with figures that predict what the real local toll will be. (She's Labour, by the way.) Does anyone know if such a FOI request would be realistic?
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Yes I got that call too out of the blue and was in total mind fog. They take no consideration how our health affects random calls.At least you get a letter and form to fill before dragging you in for assessment. So sorry your GP is not good
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Going by what your saying if I'm correct, apologies if I'm wrong!! you believe they can drag you in for a face to face assessment before youv'e filled in your review form? First of all they can't assess you before you have filled in your form, that's what the form is for, to see if your condition has changed, i.e you might have gotten worse/better.
Your GP is correct in what she told you, DWP/PIP do sometimes contact them to clarify points you have made on your review form. If your GP has written evidence for you that a face to face assessment could cause you undue further harm, either physically or mentally, you have a right to ask for reasonable adjustments, i.e, a telephone, or paperbased assessment. They absolutley cannot make you, or as you put it, drag you in for your assessment as it would break the equality act 2010. Sometimes these forms from DWP/PIP can be very confusing, hard to understand, and make you very stressed out,and confused.
I was the same on my last review last year, I rang the PIP helpline and they were actually very helpful once I told them my worries and concerns. I told them I'd need either a telephone or paperbased assessment, and could provide evidence from my GP. 2 weeks later I got a text saying my review was complete, and it was done paperbased. Try not to worry too much, I'm sure you'll be fine, hope it goes well for you!!
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I never heard of being asked to go in without completing the form it will be like last time you send form in and you may get a date for assessment but you can ask for a call you can also ask for it be to recorded write as much as you can some people say no change I wouldn't I write everything if you want extra proof do SARS form you can go back years will have your diagnosis and records of when you spoke to doctors about medication or how your feeling
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Thanks so much for your thoughtful post, @onebigvoice - I genuinely appreciate you taking the time to share your insights with all of us here. I completely agree with your sentiments about this forum - like you, I’ve drawn immense strength, clarity, and solidarity from the lived experiences shared here, as well as from the legal and systemic knowledge others have so generously offered. This space has been not only a source of support but also a safe and supportive haven, as well as a rallying point -a collective call to action- especially in light of this ruthless and dehumanising proposals set out in the government’s green paper.Together, our voices matter, and they must be heard.I just had a couple of questions that came to mind while reading your post:
You mentioned the :
“new elected Senedd Membership we have (I am proud to say I am one)”
I wanted to ask, is this newly elected Senedd actively fighting our current cause against the catastrophic benefit cuts set out in the “Pathways to Work: Reforming Benefits and Support to Get Britain Working Green Paper”? I’d love to understand more about how this Senedd engagement is helping shape the fight, especially in amplifying disabled voices and lived experience.
And regarding your request:
“To those I have not asked, can I quote with names missing, comments made here of your experiences to a court, if I have not already asked? If the answer is no then don’t reply.”
If it’s to support our shared fight against these dangerous and dehumanising proposals -or anything closely related to this and uphold your rights - then yes, you absolutely have my full consent to quote any of my comments to help strengthen your argument in court.
I deeply respect the courage it takes to keep going after a 10-year battle, and I truly hope the court case on Apr 23rd brings the justice and recognition you deserve.Keep doing what you’re doing- your determination and fierceness are making a difference.
We will not be silenced. Disabled voices matter.
In solidarity✊
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Ps before I got my form received a txt saying your pip form in the post saying if haven't received in two weeks contact us so that's good incase it's lost
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Holly from that letter I sent you looks like they can push it through ?
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