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Thank you so much for asking — I really appreciate your kindness.
The shoulder pain is much better now, apart from a dull ache when I move my arm.
However, the neuropathic pain in my leg has been quite unbearable lately.
I’m just taking it easy for now.
Take care and thank you again for thinking of me.🙏🏽1 -
would that help all of us or just that particular age group? It’s obvious it’s all about saving money and not jobs so surely it’s against all our human rights . I do hope so
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jul1aorways
Online Community Member Posts: 195 Empowering
2:20PM
"To me it doesn't matter whether Starmer, Timms or IDS are religious or atheists, they are all sadistic, immoral tyrants, hiding behind a thin veneer of respectability, so they can gaslight others to come round to their way of thinking."
But it does matter to you! By declaring a religious bent you are saying that religion does matter. And it does. It hides evil deeds.
jasminehoop
Online Community Member Posts: 11 Connected
7:22AM
I doubt anybody here but you believes that criticising Starmer's bloodthirsty attitude to benefits claimants means excusing IDS's murderous approach to social security.
Until any of you understands how the 'murderous' IDS got away with his murderous schemes then you are simply playing into his hands while those schemes continue unchecked!
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The legal challenge would focus specifically on that group (the 18–21-year-olds) because they're the ones being treated differently based on age, despite meeting all the severe disability criteria.
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so we’d need to find a way to fight in court for all of us too ? If the UN and now amnesty are saying we are already suffering human rights violations surely that’s enough for court proceedings
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If the young people your sister supports still meet the new PIP rules, they will continue to receive their PIP. It is not being taken away if they qualify. What would change is that they would not be able to get the extra health-related part of Universal Credit until they turn 22, even if they are already severely disabled and will never be able to work.
They can still keep their PIP under the new rules if they qualify, but they would miss out on some extra financial help that older disabled people are already entitled to. This could have a real impact on their independence, their quality of life, and the amount of support they can afford.
It is really important for people like your sister to keep speaking up about this. The more people explain what is truly at stake, the harder it will be for the government to pretend this is just a small technical change. It is not. It is about real lives, fairness, and basic human dignity. This policy does not affect me personally, but I have already written to Liz Kendall about it as I think it is an outrage.
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I think the government "added" a few unimportant cuts concerning small groups (young people, pensioners), which can be abandoned under pressure from the people or the courts, but they will fight to the death for "Aktion 4".
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We have less human rights as years gone on and this primary legislation is all above board im preying put pressure on mps because up to them at end of the day I don't know after if legal action be taken but so far with the starmer done it cannot be touched pls pls tell me if I'm wrong anyone I'd love to be wrong
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What about discriminatory towards certain group of disabled people? Could that stand in court
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Yes rest up have a peaceful day
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That's what I always say about narcissistic people, they have no perspective.
They are not capable of seeing anything from anyone else's point of view so cannot see how they are affecting the people they are using for their own ends.
Because of the narcassism, they are so entitled that they think that they are invincible and that nobody can touch them.
It is therefore a surprise to them that we do live in a democracy and that disabled people vote!!
This lack of perspective could very well work in our favour! 😁
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He gives me the creeps too. 🕷️🦟 I know that he was a human rights lawyer, what a complete hypocrite!
He's robotic, with no humanity in him at all. I do think that he will come to a sticky end though. I do hope so. 😁
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Leigh Day has already reviewed the welfare reform proposals, and at present, they cannot be legally challenged. Once the proposals become law, there’s no doubt these policies will be scrutinised, and I’m sure there will be legal challenges. I don’t believe this will go entirely in the government’s favour, and if the proposals are implemented, they are likely to be watered down, if some of them even go ahead at all.
It’s also worth mentioning that around 100 Labour MPs are reconsidering their stance on the vote, with 55 MPs reportedly preparing to abstain. If any of these policies do pass, I have no doubt they will be challenged in court once their harmful effects are felt. The more MPs are contacted about this, the more our voices are heard, and the more likely it is that they will be swayed to vote against it, especially if they understand clearly that voting for this could risk losing their seats in the next election.
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Yes, discrimination against certain groups of disabled people could definitely form the basis of a legal challenge, but only once the policies are in force and causing harm or discrimination. Courts need real evidence that particular groups are being unfairly disadvantaged compared to others.
That is why organisations like Leigh Day are keeping a close eye on this. If discrimination happens in practice, it could strengthen court cases based on breaches of equality and human rights laws. It is also worth mentioning that around 100 Labour MPs are reconsidering their stance on the vote, with 55 MPs reportedly preparing to abstain. Do not give up hope, this is far from over and it is just the beginning.
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Can't stop crying thanks for responding I've just emailed Debbie Abrahams she doing enquiry into green paper she's very good advocate for disabled it's a panel of 7 and apparently 4 agree with starmer can I ask would it take years to get to court if it did go to court god not even tories went this low
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I’d prefer Sunak . I don’t think he was this evil and would have watered down his green paper. Starmers enjoying this . I’ve been watching Dan wootton on YouTube about starmer and according to him things are being hidden in the msm . I don’t know but just saying .
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Hi MW, when I read what was written in B and W I felt despondent but then I thought and correct me if I’m wrong that the courts cannot intervene until it becomes law and different claimants and groups can challenge it in court . So it’s not that it’s legal just that it’s not in law yet . Is that right ?
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also MW, do you know anything about uc migration and biographical interviews over the phone . I don’t have a passport or driver license so they’ve given me an interview at their office. I’ve left a message in my school report ( journal) and asked for biographical interview but haven’t heard back . One of them said I couldn’t as I messed up and have no passport etc but another said I could if I ask in my journal.
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"I've just emailed Debbie Abrahams she doing enquiry into green paper she's very good advocate for disabled"
God give me strength
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Oh yes God long time ago used to have submismal messages like some sort of flashing from tv to make the consumer buy stuff actually very sick having his own code god what has this world come to trying stay sane then just breakdown with the reality of it all and yes starmer was prepared for this role and he really doesn't care for anyone's options or views or who suffers god bring back sunak
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