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  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Community Member Posts: 394 Pioneering

    Thank you for your very kind words! 😀

    The monarchy and the honours system is all part of why rich, privileged people regardless of whether they are of good character or not are so greatly respected in this very unequal country.

    If you are poor or disabled you are considered to be of poor character, a scrounger and fraudulent. This is despite the majority being of good character, genuinely disabled and honest. 😡

    I'm certainly not holding my breath for any positive changes in our class culture anytime soon.

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Community Member Posts: 394 Pioneering

    Thank you for your help, looking for me 😊👌 but I have googled it myself and read about it.

    I just think that I was still just really stunned about the good news. 😳 It hasn't really sunk in yet.

    However, the majority of disabled people are still nowhere near retirement age and have these vile proposals hanging over them and I do not feel any less strongly about the position they are being put into, including the people on this community.

    It is morally indefensible and I will still be campaigning against it, in the same way as I was doing before. ✊

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Community Member Posts: 394 Pioneering

    Yes, thanks for reminding me, I can remember that now. 👍

    That's the problem, it's only good news for a few, about these proposals.

    The many still have this horrible prospect in front of them and despite my good news I shall still be taking a stand against this vile Green Paper on this community and elsewhere.

    I will not ease up on campaigning as I cannot stand by and see other disabled people treated in this dispicable way. 😞

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Community Member Posts: 677 Championing
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    👆Please see the screenshot from Eventbrite.
    This is all the information provided, Catherine. I’m not sure whether it will be via MS Teams or Zoom.
    Best wishes!

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Community Member Posts: 677 Championing

    @Catherine21

    Thank you so much for asking — I really appreciate your kindness.
    The shoulder pain is much better now, apart from a dull ache when I move my arm.
    However, the neuropathic pain in my leg has been quite unbearable lately.
    I’m just taking it easy for now.
    Take care and thank you again for thinking of me.🙏🏽

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    would that help all of us or just that particular age group? It’s obvious it’s all about saving money and not jobs so surely it’s against all our human rights . I do hope so

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 6,031 Championing
    edited April 2025

    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 195 Empowering2:20PM

    "To me it doesn't matter whether Starmer, Timms or IDS are religious or atheists, they are all sadistic, immoral tyrants, hiding behind a thin veneer of respectability, so they can gaslight others to come round to their way of thinking."

    But it does matter to you! By declaring a religious bent you are saying that religion does matter. And it does. It hides evil deeds.

    jasminehoop Online Community Member Posts: 11 Connected7:22AM

    I doubt anybody here but you believes that criticising Starmer's bloodthirsty attitude to benefits claimants means excusing IDS's murderous approach to social security.

    Until any of you understands how the 'murderous' IDS got away with his murderous schemes then you are simply playing into his hands while those schemes continue unchecked!

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    so we’d need to find a way to fight in court for all of us too ? If the UN and now amnesty are saying we are already suffering human rights violations surely that’s enough for court proceedings

  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,102 Pioneering

    I think the government "added" a few unimportant cuts concerning small groups (young people, pensioners), which can be abandoned under pressure from the people or the courts, but they will fight to the death for "Aktion 4".

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Community Member Posts: 394 Pioneering

    That's what I always say about narcissistic people, they have no perspective.

    They are not capable of seeing anything from anyone else's point of view so cannot see how they are affecting the people they are using for their own ends.

    Because of the narcassism, they are so entitled that they think that they are invincible and that nobody can touch them.

    It is therefore a surprise to them that we do live in a democracy and that disabled people vote!!

    This lack of perspective could very well work in our favour! 😁

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Community Member Posts: 394 Pioneering

    He gives me the creeps too. 🕷️🦟 I know that he was a human rights lawyer, what a complete hypocrite!

    He's robotic, with no humanity in him at all. I do think that he will come to a sticky end though. I do hope so. 😁

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I’d prefer Sunak . I don’t think he was this evil and would have watered down his green paper. Starmers enjoying this . I’ve been watching Dan wootton on YouTube about starmer and according to him things are being hidden in the msm . I don’t know but just saying .

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    Hi MW, when I read what was written in B and W I felt despondent but then I thought and correct me if I’m wrong that the courts cannot intervene until it becomes law and different claimants and groups can challenge it in court . So it’s not that it’s legal just that it’s not in law yet . Is that right ?

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    also MW, do you know anything about uc migration and biographical interviews over the phone . I don’t have a passport or driver license so they’ve given me an interview at their office. I’ve left a message in my school report ( journal) and asked for biographical interview but haven’t heard back . One of them said I couldn’t as I messed up and have no passport etc but another said I could if I ask in my journal.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 6,031 Championing

    "I've just emailed Debbie Abrahams she doing enquiry into green paper she's very good advocate for disabled" 

    God give me strength

    🙏

  • Loulou82xx
    Loulou82xx Community Member Posts: 56 Empowering

    What do you think is the best and most productive way to fight this? We can only deal with the people who currently have the power to change things. Or do we just give up and accept that nothing can be done?

    Numerous Labour MP's voted for the past changes to WCA so are likely a lost cause. I want to feel hopeful and is there any possibility for legal challenges to past changes in legacy benefits or are we screwed because we didn't act hard enough back then?

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    thank you MW, I should of thought of that before. It’s just all so stressful it’s making my brain fog worse and my fatigue. I just read your previous reply to me regarding legal action. I thought that but it wasn’t explained in the B and W post I don’t think. It made it seem as though it’s water tight and a done deal but I’m no lawyer but it doesn’t seem right to me . Age discrimination, no proper consultation, points system discrimination.

  • Amaya_Ringo
    Amaya_Ringo Community Member Posts: 408 Championing

    Going back a few pages but if you mean the assessment report did not resemble the actual assessment contents, I think this is something that happens more often than the outside world would like to believe.

    I have a recording of my assessment, and when you compare the text of the assessment with what was said, there are numerous discrepancies. There are also points where you hear the assessor typing on the recording but none of the information mentioned at that point appeared on the assessment report.

    And for several of my criteria it said "x reported difficulty with this - but I think they can do it fine so 0 points". The assessor never read my evidence. My decision maker read a bit of it but the decision bore zero resemblance to my case or my evidence. It doesn't help that the decision makers and MR people are mostly not the assessors, and so most decisions are made by people who have never met you. In my case everything was based on the assessment report, which was inaccurate, rather than the evidence :/

    Reading comments of other claimants I feel like this happens quite often, and is one of the big reasons a lot of cases end up at tribunal. It's also the reason why the 4 points rule leaves nobody safe.

    The DWP as an organisation has too much power, basically. There is no regulator. Most other bodies have regulators to ensure checks and balances, but the DWP deals with a huge number of vulnerable people and there is nobody to ensure they do it properly. Without a complete overhaul of the DWP, breaking it down and rebuilding it with these checks and balances, any policy that comes from that department is probably going to be unfit for purpose :/ Just the idea of giving such an organisation more responsibility or ability to monitor or intrude into people's lives is quite terrifying because who is there to ensure safeguarding targets are met?

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Community Member Posts: 677 Championing

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