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Right so WCA are back up now , I thought it wasn't until after April 2026
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I wonder, does this mean everbody is getting reveiwed as normal, or is it still just those who were pregnant at the time, recovering cancer patients, and others who may not be 'as poorly when first assessed'? Iv'e read things before on Benefits & Work site, and it put sheer terror in me until it turned out they hadn't put all the facts out there. It just says WCA are now continuing again, but for who, some or all of us??? One more thing to worry me again all day until I get correct details.
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Just a note on assessors and assessments. I know multiple companies are involved in this and I also don't want to tarnish every single assessor as some must be doing their best. But, based on my own personal experience (thus not hearsay from another person), the DWP did not look at the whole of my evidence until the tribunal. They looked at some of it in the MR stage, to cherry pick lines from it. But the assessor had not seen my evidence prior to the assessment. We were also told that this was common practice.
Admittedly this was in 2017, maybe it's changed. I did notice a better approach on my review, the person who did my paper based reassessment and such was actually very nice, and I didn't need to speak to them directly at all, just confirm my advocate was entitled to speak for me over the phone.
There was an article a while back - and I apologise that I haven't been able to find it - that due to the number of assessments and how much is paid per assessment to the company, there is a priority on scheduling back to back assessments and not giving assessors time to review other evidence. But there is also a well documented problem of people not assessing conditions they are familiar with.
Now this part is my speculation - but I noticed that there were several inconsistencies between my assessment recording and my assessment report, and also between the assessment report and the initial decision letter. On the recording, you can also hear the assessor typing in sections where, in the assessment report, nothing is recorded. So whether the assessment reports go through other stages of editing or are written up from notes by someone else before they reach the decision maker, to save time - I am not sure.
My assessor seemed very pleasant, if fixated on my physical mobility despite my not claiming for that. She also didn't really understand when I didn't understand a question, but I put that down to her not having autism training. However, when the assessment report section begins with (Amaya reports difficulty with x y z), clearly meeting the criteria for whatever point, and then ends with, "but I think Amaya can do this" and 0 points, it does feel a bit odd.All this said, I wasn't given my assessment report till tribunal. I wasn't made aware that I could. Maybe in 2017, I couldn't. No idea. So it may be different now. As I said, that part is speculation, just based on how odd and contradictory it sounds.
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Indeed
the part ''
The DWP has begun WCA reviews again''
who knows exactly what they mean by that it could be for all or for some. They do have huge backlog so perhaps they may review those as you mentioned.
the DWP have a habbit for swapping and changing there minds lol
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I thought so to Danny
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I agree so beautifully written welcome
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My experience with the first pip assessor was almost identical. She lied on the report about the only dr letter she acknowledged, the rest she ignored. My GP said it’s the first time he’s had his letter ignored and he went through my award letter and counteracted everything. She also wrote X says she can’t do this but I say she can zero points .
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But what I don't understand if your refused pip it goes on for 13 weeks then stops whilst currently it's on going until they make a decision?? So is MR stopping
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Oh OK gosh the world of politics good to know it happens then I thought this was a first thankyou
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Well they must be because three months money after refused pip means you'd have to go on jsa ??
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Today whenever your ready as this is more than draining it sucks you dry I've emailed my mp again and said you can either be on the right side of humanity or the right side of greed and destruction told him cut the act it's been proven by experts how this will effect people how many suicides and you still want to send the same message stating thewelfare system is broken we encourage people back to work there is no work !!! Especially for Dave who can't even wipe his own backside and feed himself STOP turning a blind eye and do the right thing a bit later I will house of commons did one this morning just saying pls help us drained
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I'm glad ITV doing reports from disabled people's side said on itv news could be up to 70 but who knows only good thing is labour third in polls never happened before of a party being in 300 days let's hope alot of them abandon ship starmer is definitely a dead weight gosh wasn't rayner viscous showed her true colours the dirty looks shouting oh hell no we don't want her either
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Oh OK still unfair thankyou yogibear hope your OK
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Oh no I wanted them to leave it as they would have been pulled up in court !
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Morning Charlie,
I just migrated over to uc and I called them probably about less than a couple of months ago . I asked about them reassuring everyone on lcwra and the girl who was nice said they have no plans to and don’t have the staff even if they wanted to .
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Hi @secretsquirrel1 a member of the team will respond to your private message imminently. Best wishes, Holly.
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I think the issues you are referring to is partly due to this. A government select committee highlighted many problems as far back as 2018, noting that the structure of health assessment's incentivised assessment providers to prioritise volume over quality.
Despite investigations and promised reforms, the system still operates much the same in 2025. Providers are paid based on the number of assessments completed, not their outcomes, and DWP contracts continue to include strict targets and penalties for delays or quality issues.
While reforms are ongoing, such as changes to PIP eligibility, adjustments to the UC health element and plans for a single assessment system, the current model continues to place pressure on assessors to work quickly. There is no evidence that assessors are directly paid more for denying claims, but the volume-driven structure can affect assessment quality and fairness. These are not my words, but the government's own committee's words.
See link below, If the link does not work, try copying the title into a Google search: "Committee concerns over DWP contractors' cash incentives to rush already 'shoddy, error-ridden' PIP and ESA reports UK Parliament". That should take you directly to the official report on the Parliament website.
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haha if you hold the wire tight and hold someone elses hand they get a harder shock whilst not hurting yourself
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If this were the case MW the assessment centres could rectify this by giving those who deserve longer awards . They seem to keep reassessing some of us when there’s some still on DLA . Not only that but the call centre themselves actually lied to me so they didn’t have to record my assessment. If they recorded it I should have been given the 4? Point. Even the dwp said it had nothing to do with the dwp as it’s the assessment centres who make the decisions. I know someone who went with someone and the assessor saw this person but said they arrived by themselves. It’s outright lying . I don’t trust them and never will after my first assessment left me fighting for two years
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Both ex Chancellors did OK, they now sit in the HofL. Poor wee things.
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