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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,657 Championing

    Does anyone know if the pip and uc bill is being passed as a money bill ? I ask after reading a comment on another site

  • rach_90
    rach_90 Online Community Member Posts: 27 Connected

    I can’t remember where I read it now, but it reported that it didn’t appear to be introduced as a money bill by the labour government.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,531 Championing

    Your a star thankyou I'm still waiting to migrate

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,657 Championing

    Hi yogi

    What’s your opinion on the severe category? When they say must be consistent conditions what would that mean exactly as I have several conditions and I bet most of us do . So my conditions ME and fibromyalgia plus arthritis etc they fluctuate throughout the day . So every day I’ll get some symptoms but not necessarily the same ie migraines can last weeks caused by fibromyalgia, fatigue up and down every day as us pain . Do they mean if for instance we have one good day ( not that I do anymore) that won’t class as severe ? Would they class lifelong as something that has no cure by nhs guidelines ? And supposing you have a condition with no cure and in the case of ME/ fatigue no treatment but no 4 point how does that work out ?

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,268 Championing

    There’s no need to worry about these disability benefit changes being rushed through as a money bill, because that simply isn’t possible for this kind of law. A money bill can only be used for things that are just about government spending or raising money, not for bigger policy changes like who qualifies for benefits or how assessments are done.

    The government has made it clear these changes will go through primary legislation, which means the plans will be debated and voted on by both the House of Commons and the House of Lords, giving MPs and peers a chance to review and suggest changes before anything becomes law.

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Online Community Member Posts: 240 Pioneering

    Hi, I rang Scope about it last week after reading the same comment, they said they know nothing about it, probably just more useless clickbait and scaremongering, but people do keep bringing it up as theyv'e 'read' it somewhere, as far as I know it's complete hearsay and nonsense, like I say that came from Scope when I rang them.

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Online Community Member Posts: 267 Empowering

    @secretsquirrel1 I was thinking this myself. I think we need to have more clarification on this.

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Online Community Member Posts: 178 Empowering

    Corbyn just put this up on X

    The Independent Alliance has tabled the following amendment to the Government's disability cuts Bill.

    MPs should think long and hard about the dreadful consequences these cuts will have. Rest assured, we will keep campaigning for the rights of disabled people to live in dignity.

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  • rach_90
    rach_90 Online Community Member Posts: 27 Connected

    I keep trying to work this severe category out. I have hemiplegic cerebral palsy, use 4 different walking appliances to walk, i can’t move my foot and have foot drop.

    I can barely move my left hand, to grasp things, and have no finer motor skills in my hand either. my “good” also has problems now from a lifetime of overcompensating for the taking my body weight and keep my balance.

    I have obviously can’t be cured, have a diagnosis from a NHS consultant etc, who knows if I meet the criteria.

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 2,269 Championing

    I was early ill health retired from my career at age 47

    All reasonable adaptions were tried and failed and the occupational health Doctor and specialist consultant did reports stating I am unable to do any kind of work, yet I have been reassessed every three years for benefits.

    Its ludicrous and a waste of time.

    My condition has deteriorated over the years and I have supplied medical evidence proving it yet I still get hauled up, rather than them accepting my situation and granting me ongoing award.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,657 Championing

    I hope it follows nhs guidelines and not assessors opinions on the day

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,657 Championing
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,657 Championing
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,657 Championing

    Hi all ,

    Hope you’re all doing well in these scary times . Can I ask anyone on here who has fibromyalgia or ME do you suffer from bad cramps ? I know everyone gets cramps but I’ve had them for years and blood tests from my specialist showed nothing up . It’s been getting a lot worse the past year especially in my hands . Is this a symptom of fibromyalgia or ME? If you don’t want to reply personal info on here you can always pm me if you want to , thanks in advance

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,531 Championing

    I love this guy he makes me very emotional his compassion and passion touches my soul he went through so much and still came back caring one in a million

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,531 Championing

    SoSorry to put this up more BS

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  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Online Community Member Posts: 178 Empowering

    mines labours David Taylor he hasn’t given any clue how he’s gonna vote

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Online Community Member Posts: 178 Empowering

    Wonder if there can be more amendments like taking out the 4 point rule ect

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,657 Championing

    Well if they do they can’t insist this is about getting people into work can they . If they mean rich people than yes , like Cameron getting it . But normal people who can work but maybe not able to work full time are helped by pip

  • Quirkz
    Quirkz Online Community Member Posts: 19 Connected

    I got hardly any sleep last night worrying about the bill being introduced to Parliament yesterday.